The Hotel Del does NoT overlook the San Francisco Bay seeing as it is in Coronado and Coronado is in San Diego, WAY FAR from San Francisco…

We have been researching this case for over 2 years. We have spoken to the Beautiful Stranger who tells us she is Lottie Bernard. This has be proven by very deep research not available on the net. For more information on this case please go to: http://www.sdparanormal.com/page/page/507340.htm

Thx so much,
Bonnie Vent
Spirit Advocate
San Diego Paranormal Research Project
http://www.sdparanormal.com

OKAY PEOPLES HERE IS WHAT I THINK I THINK SHE WAS WORRIED AND DEPRESSED BECOUSE SHE WAS PREGNET AND DIDNT HAVE MONEY DIDNT EVEN HAVE LUGGAGE WHEN SHE CHECKED IN THAT HOTEL MAYBE SHE WAS SCARED HER BABY WASNT GONNA HAVE A GOOD LIFE BECOUSE NO MONEY THE KIDS FATHER WASNT EVEN THERE AND SO SHE COMMITED SUCIDE BUT THATS JUST MY OPINION.>=] DONT DIE TONIGHT

Hey, did anyone READ this story? The hotel overlooks San Diego Bay not San Francisco! What a hoot (no pun intended). Everyone is focused on the ghost and no one sees the obvious error with this story. Oh well, no one cares.
Happy Halloween 2008.

it is San Diego Bay… not San Francisco Bay…

Youv people are silly talking about haunted houses my house looks just that and it is not haunted at all!!!!!:)=
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its not scarry

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I was wondering when someone was going to mention the locale. I went back to read it again to make sure of what I read. Technically it does not overlook the San Diego Bay either. It faces the Pacific on the ocean side of Coronado Island. It is an awesome and grand place. One of those “if these walls could talk” places. There is a book ‘Somewhere In Time’ that takes place in San Diego at the Del. The Movie, ‘Somewhere In Time’, is set at The Grand Hotel on Mackin Island, Michigan. Good Story either way.

That would be The Grand Hotel on Mackinac Island, Michigan

The Hotel del Coronado is indeed a beautiful old hotel, looking out over the ocean. However, it looks out onto the San Diego bay and NOT San Francisco!

My husband and I stayed at “The Del” last January for our sixth anniversary. I didn’t see the ghost but I did have creepy vibes and felt as if someone was watching me from the window of the top floor when I was walking out on the beach. I was unable to sleep both nights because the door of our room kept moving and shaking. My husband wasn’t bothered by this, he slept like a baby. We heard a child crying in the room next door and when we called the concierge to complain he said that we were the only guests staying on our floor. That totally bugged me out!
We also got into a crazy fight because my husband went into a fit of jealous rage and it actually scared me a bit. This had NEVER happened before! I blame it on the ghost.
Overall it was an awesome trip. The hotel is very beautiful and old. You can explore the entire resort at your leisure. The coolest spot is the third floor where Kate Morgan stayed before committing suicide due to a broken heart. The hallway is extra wide, which makes the third floor super creepy. You feel like you’re in a scene of The Shining!
I highly recommend visiting the Hotel Del Coronado. You can relax of the beach, have an amazing gourmet brunch, get a massage and possibly see a ghost!

i stayed there for 109 days. the first day i was there,i felt a tug on my man-gina hair;so i stayed there another week…
the next week i felt a hand rubbing my butt,when i turned around though,nobody was there…
i took a shower 5 weeks later.i reached down to get my coconut shampoo and when i looked up i saw her face.
she had a mustache,a beard, she had no boobs,her hair was shaved off.she looked like brittany spears!then she turned into dust and i found that it was GUNPOWDER!i looked around the room and found 4 bra’s lying on the floor.later that night i put them on and masterbated with them.

In the 2nd paragraph it says that the hotel overlooks San Francisco bay, IT should say San Diego Bay.

My wife and I went to the Hotel Del Coronado to meet friends for a wedding. My wife and I arrived to the Hotel early Friday monring around 1:30 am. Our reservation was messed up due to the computers down. The Hotel was quite and reminded me of the Shinning. It was a very nice Hotel. We went to sleep that morning and I felt very weird as if someone was in our room. No big deal, I chalked it up to being in a new place. I did not know of any of these stories until the next evening when we met our group. They only said a women was died in the hotel by suicide in the 1800′s. I thought, I am from Vegas and people die in hotels all the time. My wife and I went back to our room around midnite and found our room’s bed not made and a message on the phone with flowers and a card thanking “Gail”. I could not retreve the message on the phone. At 4:00 am I woke up for not reason and loooked at my wife who woke also, kinda weird we both just opened our eyes and looked at each other. I said that was weird why did you what up, she said I don’t know. The celin fan was slowly turning and I got up to and checked my watch. it was exactly 4:00 am. We were in room 3324. After about 10 minutes trying to go back to sleep we heard a crying/laughing and a loud bang. We went back to bed and checked out the next day. My if went into the gift shop as I was waiting in velet. She opened the book on the drive home. I asked her to look up incidents about 4am and she said oh my God there are several. So that’s my short true story. The hotel made a beliver out of me “goose bumps” nice hotel though.

the hotel del does not overlook san fransico bay!!!! it is on coronado island nin san diego

My absolute favorite place in San Diego. I grew up staying here with my family every Christmas Eve. Amazing experience every year. I am trying to get my office to have its Christmas Party here this year, teehee =)

I most certainly believe of its hauntings though. I had formed a very good relationship with some of the storekeepers…amazing things they had to say.

Why is that no one can spell correctly when they leave their comments? Spell check people!

I did the research referenced by Bonnie Vent. I spoke with 20 subject matter experts in 10 different areas of expertise, none of whom had ever been asked about this story before. From that work I was able to determine that, while the case for Kate Morgan being the Beautiful Stranger is compellign circumstantially, it falls apart when the history is carefully examined. I have discussed this with the Morgan family historian, and we have agreed to disagree.

Several clues suggest that the young woman was not a housemaid born and raised in Iowa, as Kate Farmer Morgan was.

First, she had three pieces of luggage for which Kate Morgan had no need.
This luggage had come through Omaha, Nebraska and Denver, Colorado. The Beautiful Stranger said he had come from Detroit, Michigan. As there was no baggage tag for Chicago (which would have been on the route from Detroit to Omaha) this suggests a stopover at Chicago.

The Beautiful Stranger had a letter in her possession signed by two famous actresses of the time. It has come to light that this letter was not an advertisement as originally believed, but was in fact a personal correspondence to her. Kate Morgan had no such connections. Both women who signed the letter resided in Chicago, Illinois in 1892. The Beautiful Stranger likely received this letter during her stopover in Chicago.

The real Beautiful Stranger did know a man named George L. Allen who resided at Hamburg, Iowa located in Fremont County. This man was sent a telegram by the Hotel at the young woman’s request. He would have known Kate Morgan and her husband Thomas since they resided in Fremont County up through 1890. The response from Mr. Allen to the Hotel in 1892 said that Mr. Allen DID NOT KNOW THE WOMAN, but did know her husband, having gone to school with him. The 1860 U.S. Census shows that Mr. Allen was in school in Sangamon County, Illinois in that year. The Morgan family lived a short distance away, although Thomas Morgan was not yet born. About the same distance away in the other direction lived a Barnard family. I believe Mr. Allen was referring to a member of this family in 1892. Because of the nature of the various families’ migrations West from Illinois to Iowa in the intervening years, it is very possible Mr. Allen would have known of Mrs. Barnard by 1892. He was helping Mrs. Barnard, not Kate Morgan.
The reason the name is spelled ‘Bernard’ on the Hotel Register rather than ‘Barnard’ is that it was written by the on-duty desk clerk and not the guest, according to the Hotel’s Chief Clerk, Mr. Gomer. Immediately after her name, the name of the next guest to check in was Mr. Joseph A. Jones. His story is the clincher.

The real smoking gun though has to do with an identification made by Joseph A. Jones in a conversation with the Beautiful Stranger’s bell man at the Hotel the Thursday after the body was discovered. Mr. Jones told the bellman that he had ridden West on the train with the young woman and her well-dressed gentleman companion. Jones first saw the woman at Denver, Colorado, next took note of the couple at Orange, California when they had a violent argument causing the travelling companion apparently to leave the train, and finally at the Hotel the Saturday after their arrival in San Diego. This is important, because it places the Beautiful Stranger at Denver a few days’ before Thanksgiving Day when the Beautiful Stranger and Mr. Jones checked into the Hotel.

That same week, it is known that Kate Morgan was working as as a housekeeper in Los Angeles, 1000 miles West of Denver, Colorado. She could not have been on that train and could not have been the Beautiful Stranger.

Prior to my research, no one had correctly identified Mr. Jones. He was in fact born and raised in Boston. In 1892 he was living in India, working as an export broker for an old family friend named Albert Cheney. Cheney was a Harvard graduate and had bought the export business from a Mr. Arnold who had retired to the San Diego area in 1890. Mr. Jones was appointed a U.S. Consular Officer by President Benajmin Henry Harrison according to records at the U.S. National Archives in Washington, D.C. Jones told the bellman that his next destination was the Arnold Ranch at Alpine, California (25 miles East of the Hotel) and that after that he would return to his bungalow in India.

Although others failed to find Mr. Jones, instead identifying him variously as Thomas Morgan, Albert Allen and others, he was in fact a real person. We have his photograph, travel documents and even his passport number. He was wealthy, competent, and likely had good faculties and an excellent memory. His story is quite believable. And that is the smoking gun which, despite all other anecdotal evidence, clearly shows that Kate Morgan could not have been the Beautiful Stranger.

There is much, much more, but I hope this gives you some insight into the depth of the research and the nature of the findings. Much of it was hard documentary work, but it was indeed inspired by messages from the Beautiful Stranger herself through medium Bonnie Vent.

Bonnie was brought to this project by me with little advance warning. She had no time to prepare a story by early 2006 when she first spoke with the Beautiful Stranger at the Hotel Del Coronado. And remember that at that time all that was available anywhere regarding the Legend was the story that has been told in this forum earlier. A story which we now see is completely wrong. And wrong not based on assumption or legend, but wrong based on historical fact. No one was more surprised at the accuracy of the communications than Bonnie herself. Her presumptions about what had happened at the Hotel were entirely different than the story which emerged. And aside from myself, Bonnie was amazed as fact after fact checked out historically and the real story eventually emerged.

There is much more we could do, but we may have run out of historical evidence. We have information as to how and why the young woman truly died but, to date, there is an insufficient amount of historical data to validate this part of the story. The work continues.

But I honestly do believe that this is the closest telling of the story to the actual truth.

Wow! I do believe that all of you people need lessons in grammar!