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Some railroad tracks on the south side of town (the sticks)

San Antonio, Texas

While on the way home, a bus full of first and second graders broke down while driving across these railroad tracks. Rather than going to look for help, the driver told the children to get off the bus and push it across the tracks; they were struck down by a train. Now it is said that if one drives to the site and puts the car in neutral, it will be pushed over the tracks. Allegedly if one spreads baby powder on the back of the car before going to the site, he will see fingerprints when he leaves.

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Stacy says:

September 22, 2005, 11:05 am

I have heard the story before but I heard it a different way. The way I heard it was that the bus stopped on the tracks and it wouldnt start also and the kids, teacher and bus driver push the car over the tracks and the names on the street signs in that area are the names of the kids who died.

jason bean says:

September 24, 2005, 1:56 pm

i personally have been there and it is a weaird thing you put ure car in neutral and it would roal up the hill and over. i have also tried the baby powder and there were finger prints on the back of the crown victoria we were in, but it is said the finger prints are your own from the oils on ure hand. i dunno what happens but it seems to get more attention by the people of sanantonio every year.

Shelby says:

September 24, 2005, 4:40 pm

umm i have gone there before and it was scary cause one of my friends got out and tried to push it then she saw a white figure come across the tracks but there were no sounds at all then we saw a white train with blood on the grill I had screemed my head off that night

Quinten Revere says:

September 28, 2005, 5:47 pm

i have never been there yet but im gonna be going this halloween after i go to nightmare on grayson if anyone wants to with me feel free to let me know .

DNA lozano says:

September 28, 2005, 7:14 pm

well i have a cousin that acually went about 2 years ago and tried that thing with the car, and she told me that someone er sumthing was pushing her car while it was on neutral. She said that it was an odd feeling while she was there.

susan says:

October 4, 2005, 3:00 pm

wouldn’t the powder blow off the back of the car,if it is put on B4 going to the site? Wouldn’t you sprinkle it when you got to the site?

stephanie says:

October 5, 2005, 12:13 pm

this is not true that what i think

Lilly says:

October 5, 2005, 5:53 pm

Well I was born and raised in San Antonio and that never happened! There is no “BUS CRASH” and there never was a bus crash. Texas archives have no record of that at all! And the names on the streets are the names of the kids (and some just random names) of the man that paid for renovating that part of historic San Antonios’ Missions.However, that railroad is “SOMETHING” maybe haunted by kids from that time of the missions but not because of a Railroad Accident!! Sorry Guys!

Amanda says:

October 5, 2005, 7:54 pm

Hey i really want to go to this but i don’t know where it is can someone tell me where it is at. If i could get directions from UTSA i would appreciate it!

Megan says:

October 7, 2005, 3:00 pm

Well I lived in Texas and I know it to be true. My mother and I went to that road. Before we got close to it we placed baby powder on the bumper and we placed the car in neutral. (We made sure no one was behind us.) A few mintues later the car started to move. We got all the way across the trackes. We then stopped. My mother and I got out of the car and saw these tiny hands prints on the bumper and no one was around us.

sonya says:

October 7, 2005, 3:15 pm

you guys are so sick to believe something like that!!!!

Lydia says:

October 8, 2005, 2:24 pm

yea i’ve heard this story so different all i know is that the street signs r named after them.I live in San Antonio me and a couple my cousins went we put r car in neutral and like 10 secs. it started moving and it went over the tracks and we all got out and saw little handprints so we got back in did it again this time we all got scared we but r car in neutral and we started moving again right when we were on the tracks we stoped and we were all scared and then 30 secs we started moving again. so it was fun but when the acciedent happend it was around the 1930’s or 1940’s my aunt said that it could of happend and they lost the record of it. but all I know it is true And this halloween i’m going again .

Tori says:

October 8, 2005, 4:19 pm

I don’t think that it’s true but I think that perception is reality. In your mind if you believe in something enough it’s going to happen. So by people believeing in all of this I think it’s true to them. Try going to an old plantation where there we slaves and slaves that had been killed I believe that their will be some voices.

Michael says:

October 10, 2005, 9:21 am

we believe it cause its true sonya. duh, stupid

Carol says:

October 10, 2005, 9:46 am

I know this is true because I was born and raised in San Antonio, and my parents told me how hapenned. It said to be that the bus that the kids were in they were crossing the railroads tracks, when the bus suddenly stop then the train crash into them. It said if you but the car in neutral the car moves up and down the railroads tracks, and in halloween at night you can see the train passing you just seee the light of the train.

liza says:

October 10, 2005, 8:03 pm

well i leave in el paso texas and that same story is told here . if u take the car n-u put it in neutral they say the kids move ur car up the hill . n if u put baby powder ull -c- the kids handprints if been there alot of times n stuff like that has happened !!!!!!!!!! its just wierd how the same story is said in different places!!!!!!!!!

jessica says:

October 11, 2005, 11:21 am

i have been there. it was really interesting, i plan to go again because i was about 6 when me and my family went. we did the whole powder on the back of the car and once the ghosts pushed us over there were little kid hand prints on the back. i dont believe the prints come from oils in your skin… we just washed the car and no one touched the back. if you like finding creepy haunted places, go to the tracks.

erika carrillo says:

October 11, 2005, 7:25 pm

ok my cousin went and it is true the kids did push the car

Ruby says:

October 12, 2005, 11:46 am

I live in el paso tx and theres a story like that here too!!! and its the same word by word!!!! so it makes me wonder how can something like that happen in two places in tx!! i dont know but its making me think its fake!!!!

~~>*Ruby*

Sonia says:

October 13, 2005, 4:33 pm

I have been there, did the baby powder thing and all that jazz. I don’t think that it’s true about the bus accident but I do know that some paranormal energy was pushing us over those tracks. I also heard that the streets were named after the children of some big money guy in San Antonio. A developer, possibly.

I came to this forum because I thought it interesting but now I’m just saddened by everyone’s poor grammar. There has been such a decline in our ability to communicate. Please don’t get me wrong, I’m not speaking about everyone.

This is beside the point and I’m sure many will hate me. I do what I can.

Paula says:

October 13, 2005, 5:46 pm

Where is this train track in San Antonio. My husband & I are wanting to go there and try this.

Tania says:

October 13, 2005, 11:11 pm

I’m from New Zealand and this story has come up on TV here in the past as some kind of Urban Legend. I think at one of the sites, possibly neither of the two mentioned already but other site where the legend also exists, they believed that the gradient of the tracks and ground led the car to move. I can’t recall what they believed scientifically created the handprints.

An interesting story though and as long as nobody is getting hurt by it, why not try it out. I do believe that ghosts and such things occur as my family and friends have had paranormal experiences, but be careful there are scams out there, don’t just buy into everything.

koehler says:

October 14, 2005, 6:32 pm

its true my mom was a teacher atthe school during the time

Roxan says:

October 15, 2005, 2:01 pm

If it’s true, it would have been on the news, if not the news, then in the news papers, if not the newspapers, then in a court record, police report, and or death certificates…..find the records and the evidence, and I will believe this urban legend.

Ke'ana says:

October 15, 2005, 3:50 pm

It’s true. my mom has a news paper about it. and she axaly saw the tragedy happen righ before her eyes, because she was coming up that street.

bill nye says:

October 18, 2005, 1:06 pm

i think it is true i saw a naked lady with huge titties push my car i tried to get out and grab a tittie but she was already gone u should go see for yourself

Bonnie says:

October 18, 2005, 6:50 pm

Hello
My family and I alway vited San Anotnio very chance that we get. I live in Laredo, Texas. When I was in high school. I was in HOSA, so we had
a trip to houston. So the other high that ride with us wait to go thur San Anotoio to check out the rail track. When we got there the discovery channel was there and a physic. The physic told us that she had talk to the people living around that area. That one man had lost his dog and when he found him on the track, that his dog had a human bone. I’m not sure when this happen but when we went there it was almost 10 years ago. Also that there is no document about that train crash. The physic said that the tree that’s when you are turing to the street to cross the railroad. She would see that the tree was used to hang people before.

tomy says:

October 19, 2005, 4:46 pm

I just wonder at the fact that at least 5 people who have commented have asked where the site is but no one, not one, has ever posted the location of the event. what does this mean?
a. no one here has actually been to the site and just wants to fit in
b. this event never happened and people just want to be a part of the story.
if some one wants to prove that they have at least been there i would like to see that person post the location and directions so all those who want to go can. what’s there to be afraid of? are you scared that people will find out it’s just a hoax?

Keisha Ringland says:

October 21, 2005, 8:11 am

it is all false. the baby powder is your own fingerprints and the road off of the tracks actually goes down hill not up. it is an illusion. no children were ever killed there. my uncle investigated the story. go ahead right now and put baby powder on your car. if you have touched your car in that spot within the past 2 days it will work.

Lena says:

October 21, 2005, 5:46 pm

Koehler said that his/her mom was a teacher at the school when the accident happened. Does that mean he/she can give an accurate telling of the story? Does his/her mom know the people who were in the accident? Have you or your mom tried to go over the tracks while the care is in neutral?

Sorry for so many questions, but I live in Chicago and I am going to be visiting Texas soon and I want to know if I should “visit” the tracks.

Jesse says:

October 22, 2005, 11:24 pm

I have never been to the site of the railroad tracks but, I have heard many people speak of it. As of the location; all I know is that is on the North Side of San Antonio coming in from Interstate Highway 35 (within 3 miles of the Spaghetti Warehouse.

Lena – if you are going to visit Texas and will be in San Antonio, you should visit the Menger Hotel and Hotel Saint Anthony. There have been many sightings at these two hotels- I have also experienced some unexplained paranormal activity.

If you can get the Mineral Wells – try to visit The Baker Hotel. It is a beautiful 11 story hotel; built in the early 1900’s by TB Baker (who also, built the Baker in Dallas and Saint Anthony) It burned down in 1929 and was rebuilt only to be shut down again after the Market Crashed. Not only is it a historical landmark, it is also known for many paranormal sightings and activity.
I had the pleasure to experience a guided tour through the haunted halls, rooms and stairways this past February, 2005. I was able catch a glimpse of an “orb” while I was briefly seperated from the tour group. One of the guides later told me that this room was known for these sightings. I didn’t say that I seen something until after they started talking about it.
If you would like to read more about the Baker Hotel go to http://www.spiritofthebaker.com (please note I have no affiliation to this website).

Whether you do or don’t believe in ghosts, the paranormal, urban legends- The fact that you are visiting this website should account for something.

bresha says:

October 25, 2005, 9:27 pm

lilly i really dont care if u used to live there let these people believe wat they want to believe ok & you need to slow ya role because their com. aint none of ya bisness ok so keep ya nosy tale out of this

blanca says:

October 26, 2005, 1:46 am

i have been there and i know its true we put some dirt on the back of the car and we saw little hand prints.

Keisha Ringland says:

October 26, 2005, 8:07 am

Hey Lena, don’t worry about what others write!!! no offense to anyone, but if you really want to go and check it out you go right ahead!!!!! my Uncle took me there and i was really spooked until i found out about the baby powder working on any fingerprints!!!! the street by the trcks also really does sloop downwards!!! but hey if you want to check it out you can!!!! all i can tell you is that i have never uncovered any suck story on any newspaper and a friend of mine who has lived near there all of her life has never heard of any such accident!!!

Scott Reed says:

October 27, 2005, 4:37 pm

I have heard this story many times. I live in Austin and was told this story by my teacher who used to visit the San Antonio area frequently. I do believe this will happen to me (if I get the chance to do it) but are their pictures or a video of the car moving across the road or what? I would really like to see some proof so these n00bs who post pointless comments on here will stop typing nonsense. I hope to try it eventually if not sometime this weekend.

Aaron says:

October 28, 2005, 11:56 am

I actually went there once, that was 2 months ago. Me & my girlfriend went there for a short, 1 week break-away from the hectic Singapore lifestyle. I get to know of this place through the web site before, so we agreed on visiting this place out of adventure & curiosity.
We decided to try the powder & neutral gear stuff. The powder test, to our disappointment was actually caused by sweat residue left behind by our hands that dissolves the powder at the back of our rented car. We sprinkled generous amounts of powder at the back of the car just before I drive onto the tracks but still the powder managed to dissolve in a matter of seconds, leaving hand-prints of different shapes & sizes left behind by previous drivers. The unexplainable thing that happened though, was the ‘pushing’ of the car. We felt the car move forward a few metres the moment I release the brakes. We brought with us a carpenter ruler & thus we went back onto the tracks & tested the gradient of the slope, to our suprise, the gradient was considered minimal to create a ‘rolling down the hill’ possibility. What’s more, the tracks act as mini humps on the road surface so if it really was because of a gradient slope, at least the movement should be stopped by the track humps as the moving speed was slower than normal walking speed.
Its definitely worth a try to visit the tracks but the powder test is really unnecessary.

Regards to all!
Aaron

jeff and kathryn says:

October 28, 2005, 4:36 pm

me and my dad went and it is true it felt weird and it wasnt are mind because we were on the tracks and then we werent so you kno what your wrong

Naomi Camargo says:

October 28, 2005, 10:49 pm

I really believe that its true! I used to go when i was younger and they would push us and we WOULD see handprints, but one time when i went my cousin told me too look thru the back window the wole time and thats when i saw the pale white face i actually went in shock cause i was so scared! but that was along time ago! I recently went again and we were so exited to go cause we hadnt went in along time thats when they pushed us once we went again then again a third time thats when they acually left us RIGHT on the tracks like wanting us to DIE! when we went to the store in the light to look we saw no prints in the back but we found a whole lot in the front of our truck like if they were acually trying to stop us on the tracks and not push us over it was really SCARY!! after that experience i dont think i will EVER go again!! so please people i think these spirits are tierd and all they want is to be laid to rest so STOP going and just LEAVE THEM ALONE!!!! please!

Naomi Camargo says:

October 28, 2005, 10:56 pm

for all you asking wher its at iam not sure but its real its not just a cover up that im not telling you its just not a easy place to remember cause when you go at night there is lots of little streets to remember an its like where there is trees all over so its like pitch black!! this is not a cover up i really just DONT remember!!!!
-Naomi

DiRtY d says:

October 29, 2005, 12:54 am

hey guys
the story i heard was a lil different i heard it was
a football team that just came from a game and the
bus had no more gas n so they got off n pushed the
bus acrossed the tracks while the train was comin n
they didnt make it in time n the train killed them. i havent
been there yet but m lookin foward to going on hollween

anthony says:

October 29, 2005, 8:31 am

hello, THIS IS TRUE, i went there and put my car in neutral and got out with my digital video camera, and you can see two little figures in the video at the rear of my car pushing it. I had baby powder on the trunk and bumper and there were little handprints in the powder and i have that on video too. Im pretty sure the prints are not from me, since I washed my car clean before I took it to the tracks. Bottom line is if you dont believe, take a video camera up there with you and get out of the car and tape it. Thats what I did and I now believe.

Anthony

lenore says:

October 29, 2005, 2:19 pm

yeah well we went some time ago, it wasnt our first time, and well we put the car in neutral and so it moved, but we were so surprised like the first one then my brother, in true curious fashion, turned off the excursion and apparently it works like that too… so i mean what the hell? yeah so my bro. heard from some of his co-workers that the road is uneven… so there i go trying to figure it out whether it was true or not… i tried tying a rock to a string then the string to the crossroad sign but apparently the floor is leveled or something, it was my brothers suggestion, someone told him to try that…

Christina says:

October 29, 2005, 5:11 pm

Wow, so far I’ve heard from a lot of opinionated people. I live in Dallas and I’ve never been to this site before. But from what I’ve heard, it sounds creepy! I hear a lot of controvery concerning the whole “hand prints on the car” situation. What I think would be a good tester is if someone were to wash the back of their car REALLY well, then put baby powder on it while ur still @ home. Let it sit for about 20 minutes, then go back and look. If you see fingerprints, then you will know that the babypowder won’t work. If that’s the case, try taking a picture of the fingerprints on the back of your car from all angles. Then, when you go to the site, and you see finger prints again, take pictures of those and compare them carefully, if they look the same, it probably isn’t real, but if they look completely different, it probably is. Also try to avoid touching the back of your car a while before you go to the site. When it comes to the whole “Car simply rolling down the hill” situation, you could videotape the car going down the hill, then find out how many mph it was going. Then find another hill with that same slope and let it roll down that hill, they should be going at the same speed, but if the one @ the site is going faster, than the myth is true! Hope you guys take my advice! I personally think that anything is possible. I’m not one of those people who think that science has a complete rule over everything, but I’m also not the type of person who believes that there a ghosts and spirits everywhere. So, it could be true, it could be a simple myth. There’s no TRUE way of knowing, but I hope all of my tips can help!
~Christina

mary espinoza says:

October 31, 2005, 4:56 pm

yes, i have born in sanantonio and during halloween you here this story alot.The way i have heard it was that their were kids on a bus going to school and as they were going over the tracks the bus suddenly stopped and corruption arose because a train was coming. it is said the bus driver left the kids and only saved himself but thats another story.anyway, so after the kids died they named the streets nearby in memory of the little kids.So, now when you go to the tracks and put your car in neutral the little kids help you over so you won’t get hurt like they did.there are many other stories that are about situations that have to do with this and i believe they are all true.So, anyone that is not a believer needs to come visit to SA and see for themselves

james says:

November 1, 2005, 8:14 am

typical group hysteria and the need to believe something supernatural. why are there no videos, pics, or records? it’s all b.s., that’s why. people see and hear what they want to see and hear. the rest of us laugh out loud at you.

Robert says:

November 1, 2005, 4:33 pm

Well, first of all, the reported incident of a bus of children being killed by a train was in Utah (1000 miles away) in December 1938. The accident happened as a result of fog, slippery roads, and a late train . The driver had the route commited to memory, and he also knew the train schedules and knew trains didn’t travel those tracks at that time of day, so he didn’t expect the train to be coming and apparenlty didn’t hear it either. There were no visible lights of any sort or audible sounds, so he began crossing the tracks as usual.There were 38 children on the bus (on its way to Jordan High School), ranging from 12 to 18 years old, and when the bus started over the tracks, a freight train (named the Flying Ute) collided with the bus, tearing it in half and killing 25 children and the driver. The San Antonio aspect comes from a series of newspaper articles that ran for over a week in the city providing in gruesome detail the events that had taken place in Utah…NOT San Antonio. There was never any report for an accident of that nature taking place in San Antonio, which had something like that actually occured, it would have made news across the country. As for the streets in San Antonio around the supposed area, they were named after the developer’s grandchildren. I’m sure pretty much everyone has placed their hands on their trunks or on the back of their car at some time or another, and the oil from your hands that causes fingerprints stays behind for quite some time, so when you dust your car for fingerprints after its supposedly “pushed” of course you’re going to find them. And also, when you put your car in neutral, it doesn’t take much gravitational force at all for it to roll. Even the slightest hill can cause something that heavy to roll fowards when the wheels aren’t locked. Gravity is a pretty powerful thing. And also, for the stories that say the kids or whoever got out to push the bus over the tracks…who in their right mind would actually attempt to push it over the tracks if a train was coming?? Any logical person would see/hear the train and immediately get away…it’s called a survival instinct. People could honestly care less about a material object if their life is in danger. If the kids or whoever had enough time to get out and push, they’d have plenty of time to get out and run away.

Melissa says:

November 4, 2005, 1:40 pm

It is true, I’ve been there before and man was I freaked! I live in San Benito Texas so when I was in San Antonio it was on Vacation. I didn’t believe it either until I experienced it. It was actually pretty cool..I did it like 5 times until I knew it was for reals.

Deyanira says:

November 7, 2005, 7:16 pm

I live in Brownsville Tx. and I’ve heard that story. I do believe in it even though I haven’t gone. Who will possibly invent something like that. I’m still planing to go because I don’t want to have any doubs.

mike says:

November 8, 2005, 7:48 am

How you people can get on here and lie like this is so unreal. Anyone claiming that accident ever happen is a moron. I dont care where you live or who you know or what you were told that whole story is a lie its nothing more than lore. the one thing most people dont tell you is that they have done research there and its a bunch of b/s. No bus of children were ever killed at that site period. Do your home work before you come on here and lie to people. Anyone who doubts what I say go check the local news outlets during that time and you will see for yourself.

Thunderhead says:

November 15, 2005, 10:14 am

I was directed to the supposed site of the crash by some friends, so the next night my brother and i road our bikes out there,then it dawned on me…damn!,..we forgot to bring the car..was i ever
pissed at myself , so i sat on the tracks my self, put the powder
on the seat of my pants and sure enough i felt afew hands on
my kester!,…but being the over weight slob Iam , ‘THEY’ couldnt
budge me !
Suddenly we hear the sound of a vehicle approaching and it pulled
up behind me at the tracks and there was no one in the drivers seat..
the vehicle began to push me accross the tracks and as soon as I cleared the tracks ..I turned around and it was gone..
just my friend and I !
I told my buddie,..”WOW!!.. now those are some industrius lil` ghosts
to get me accross like that!
What really got me …was the message scrawled in the gravel by little fingers next to the tracks,..it read ; LOSE SOME WEIGHT LARDBUTT!

THAT EXPERIANCE WAS REALLY …PHAT!

laura says:

November 20, 2005, 4:12 pm

i was born i tx and there is no such thing of that! and all my reletives lived in tx and none of my grandpa and grandma ever told my parents!

Alexis says:

November 20, 2005, 6:29 pm

In a way i wanna beleive this story but i really dont.Theres alot of different ways the story is told; theres the one about the kids being left there by themselves. If that story is true id beleive it because the kids were on the bus and couldn’t get off on time to get away from the train. Theres also the one where the man makes the kids push the bus; knowing how loud the trains are you’d figure the kids or the driver would have heard the bus and ran. Not even ran, they could have tooken a few steps back and would have been out of the trains way. Same with the story of the High School students, robert said they were 12-18 yrs old, if they would have gotten off the bus they could have had time to get out of the trains way. He also said there was 38 kids on the bus but the train killed 25 and the driver. Then what happened to the other 12 on the bus. The thing of putting the car on nuetral, if the the tracks are slanted then of course the cars gonna move. The powder i cant explain that, but maybe something different happened that had nothing to do with the train tracks. i wouldnt wanna go to the site because i think its a waste of time. But yet thats my opinion.

JohninEngland says:

November 23, 2005, 5:26 am

What utter rubbish. The ground probably isn’t level. The finger prints are probably from the owner of the car from when you open and close the car boot. Bet if you put power onto most cars and leave it there for a time you will see ‘what looks like finger prints’. Also do you really think it would be that easy to request the dead to push a car a distance in the first place!! Get real. If that is the case then doe anyone know of a ghost which will come round mu house and do a bit of slabbing of my front lawn, oh can they also collect my kids from school, or suggest the winning lottery numbers this Saturday etc etc etc. Tell you what should WE ALL hold hands and connect the LIVING instead! Rubbish all rubbish.

Missy says:

November 25, 2005, 8:34 pm

OK sweethearts. I’m not going to say that this is real and I’m not going to say that it isnt (eventhough my mom says she has been there and says it is true). But things happen whether we can explain them or not. Trying to justify of what happens out there is just useless, no one will ever find answers to mysteries like this story. I say everyone should go out and atleast try this once. I havent tried it yet, but I plan to in the near furture. I have heard stories from family and friends and they all say it is true. I just wish everyone could have respect for other peoples beliefs and try not to step on them.

brenda says:

November 28, 2005, 3:08 am

hey guys i’m also from el paso, tx and everyone knows about “gravity hill”… i’ve been there a couple of times and the last time i went, i could of sworn that i heard the railroad tracks and the train moving… my friend also went and there were little tiny hand prints all over her truck…. i personally believe it’s true

abdul says:

November 28, 2005, 12:44 pm

i dont believe anyone unless i see it with my eyes. i need evidence

Bobby says:

December 4, 2005, 2:44 am

My dad works for the Union Pacific Rail Road here in San Antonio an he can vouch the this event did actually happen. Granted i have never done it but i plan to.

Abby says:

December 11, 2005, 4:23 am

I live in Dallas,Tx. I’ve heard the same story but people here say it happens here too. My friends tried it before and they said it happened to them too!

thayet59 says:

December 14, 2005, 1:24 pm

This sounds pretty believable. I don’t live near the sight, but I have heard of a few of my friends trying it. They say that the car did move (it was a hummer) and there were tiny handprints on the back windshield. They can’t explain how it happened, and neither can I.

Gabriel says:

December 15, 2005, 6:46 pm

Wat a sweet kids aren’t they?

Yvonne . R says:

December 20, 2005, 1:40 am

Well, if you want to know a real haunted house you should hear this story.About a few years ago me and my family lived in a house that is in meadow brook here in texas, the house number is 8010.One day when i was sleeping in my bed inside my bedroom , i heard a noise come from the hallway which my bedroom door was opened , i looked over my covers and i sall a little girl ghost walking down the hallway with a long sleeve flower shirt on with sweatpants that are purple colored.That freaked me out, i hid under neath my covers , but i had to go to the restroom but i was scared because that was the first time i ever seen a ghost plus we have been knowing about a ghost in our house but we never seen it until know for me. I got out from my bed and took my black pillow with me and covered part of my face but not all of it except for my eyes and part of my nose; i walk past my little sisters bed which she is a sleep,and i go into the hallway, i look both ways to see if i sall the girl ghost but she is nowhere to be seen. I slowly walk past my parents bedroom which is across my bedroom door.i see the bathroom door just barely opened, ‘Bang!’ , I heard my bedroom door shut closed and i felt like somebody is watching me behind my back, i run into the bathroom and just before i closed the door the ghost is right infront of the bathroom door from the hallway , she looked at me but i was so freaked out that i probably could have **** myself.I close the door and imediantly turn the lights on , i use the bathroom and when i opened the door back again i looked both ways and took my pillow and ran as fast as i could to my bedroom but before i pass my door i close it and ran to my bed then jumped in it and went to sleep.

What do you think?

Rosie Raya says:

December 22, 2005, 6:32 pm

I was born and raised in San Antonio and frequented the “tracks” in my teenage years, and I can assure you something unexplicable happens there. It is a fact that if you turn your engine off, and put your car in neutral, it will start rolling about 20-30ft, UP a hill about 6-8 feet high at about a 30 to 40 degree incline tops off and then it feels as if gravity takes over from there. I could never figure out how we gained enough momentum to even reach the hill top. The feeling is extremely unnerving. When you are being “pushed” it is at a very slow pace, for those of you that have ever had a stalled car and someone push you, it’s the EXACT same feeling….except there is no one there.

Avery says:

December 30, 2005, 10:07 pm

I’m not sure how anyone could believe this. I *might* be able to understand a bus driver abandoning a bus full of kids, but that’s not likely. Generally, school bus drivers are responsible people who care alot about the kids they transport. But the version that says the driver made the kids push the bus is absolutely ridiculous. First and Second graders probably wouldn’t even be able to reach the bumper of the bus. Does anyone remember Bus Evacuation days, and how we had to have people help us make that big jump? Secondly, little kids aren’t stupid. If a train was coming, they would have run away, regardless of what the driver told them. They would be scared. The only way I can see one getting hit is if they were frozen there with fear. But that isn’t very likely either. And highschool kids? Come on, you can’t get a highschooler to clean their room, let alone loyally try to push a bus while a freaking train is coming.

I think Robert hit the nail right on the head. But I did love Thunderhead’s story.

grady says:

January 2, 2006, 9:25 pm

i have heard many stories of the assumed bus/train accident. but like previous people have stated ” how could children push a bus ” and besides why would a bus driver tell them to. there may never be any proof or truth of such an event ever taking place. i can say as of the doubt of the slope of the crossing, take a string and a stringline level or a laser level and check the grade of the crossing and you will find out exactly whether the slope is down hill or up hill. if it is proven to be a downhill slope then it doesn’t take much to make a car move. for the powder. as others have stated, if there is any trace of body oil it will leave a print when you put powder on the car.

manny says:

January 3, 2006, 1:39 pm

i am in el paso texas no one has said were this streets are can anyone or anything tell me the cross streets so i can see it for my self

karen says:

January 4, 2006, 1:10 pm

hey man this is true i been there!!!!

Sarah says:

January 4, 2006, 3:38 pm

Bonnie on 10/18/05 said she’d seen the Discovery Channel at the site with a psychic, and I can vouch for that…I saw the show on TV. They also had a surveyor there that confirmed that the road actually does go uphill. The cameras documented everything, from the surveyor taking readings and measurements, the baby powder being put on the back bumper, the car going UPHILL over the tracks, and the many many hand prints on the bumper after the car stopped. The car wasn’t even running at the time of the experiment, it was turned off and in neutral.

They also interviewed a woman who’s daughter died in the accident; she not only confirmed that the accident happened but also that many of the streets in the area were named for children who had died. I believe the timeframe we’re looking at here was the late ’60’s or early ’70’s.

Tiffany says:

January 4, 2006, 5:38 pm

Hey I dont know if its true or what but Im going to find out. Any one want to go!

Regg says:

January 6, 2006, 11:11 am

I had a friend that went to the University of Sanantonio, one night her and a couple of friends went out to those railroad tracks, covered the car in baby powder, and stuck the car in nutral. She said a couple of seconds later the car just started rolling on its own. Later they got out to find little hand prints all over the back end. They have pictures to prove it. She was freaked out. To top it off as they were leaving they went through a near by neighborhood as a short-cut only to find that every street was named after one of the kids that died on that school bus. CRAZY HUH!

Kelli says:

January 7, 2006, 1:46 am

I dont kno if this story is true for san antonio but it is tru liek someone said earlier in Utah, i wish i culd find some proof and articles bout this, u wuld think there wuld be news papers articles about it ya know?? im not knockin it, id like to go there, and the down hill up hill thing all depends on whcih direction u are travleing im sure.. if u go one way ur goin down but go the opposite direction and ur goin up yakno?

Mike says:

January 10, 2006, 12:52 am

yeah I have been there before. and it is pretty cool. well I dont know exactly what it is that pushes you over the tracks but see I believed the same thing of oh well its on a hill blah blah…but the thing is you dont know what Im talking about unless you have been there. we cleaned the back of the car and put baby powder right before we put it in neutral, then we did the whole waiting and it did it. and we did see small little hand prints. ALOT of small hand prints. thats what freaked me out. the thing is when you are going over the tracks it kind of steeps up before you reach the tracks. so we would stop the car right at the steep so we would have rolled backwards away from the tracks if this whole hill theory were correct. but something pushed us over because it did NOT roll backwards. it continued to roll the car forward and over the tracks. as I remember it, this location is over off the 410 loop on the southeastern side of San Antonio. its right there. but anyways yeah weird stuff. Im looking for some creep stuff in Dallas but haven’t found too much on anything. anyways doesnt really matter who believes what because you will always have those who do not believe until it happens to you. and it has happened to me. amongst other paranormal things I have seen at other haunted places. but anyways laters!

Mike

ANN says:

January 10, 2006, 9:01 pm

I Believe that it is true my ex. boyfriend, cousin, and I went to the tracks because my cousin didn’t believe it happened so we went there to prove it to her. He turned the car completely off and the car started to move all by itself without being on. That really scared me and her both so yes I believe it is true.

Anna says:

January 12, 2006, 5:32 pm

Last year in English class we read this book called Rescue which told exactly the same story Robert told except it said the bus driver was a sub who was young, inexpierienced, and did not do the whole railroad crossing thing properly. Since it was HS kids who were on the bus it was early in the morning and still pretty dark. Anyway the back end of the bus was not all the way on the tracks so most of the kids in the back didn’t get hurt as bad which explains why 12 out of 38 survived. Anyway two registered nurses were at a cafe that was pretty close to the tracks eating breakfast before going to work. After hearing the accident they ran out the door and saw what had happened. Then they got right to work trying to save some of the kids that had been thrown out of the bus. They were able to save a few because of their fast work and medical training. ( Hence the title “Rescue” ) Also, just because 12 kids lived doesn’t mean they walked away from it. They all were hospitilized for days and suffered from multiple broken bones, serious concussions, some were in comas, lots had to have multiple surgeries,etc. It is a very sad story and I pray for everyone that was one that bus that day and their families.

sonofanun says:

January 19, 2006, 5:30 pm

Okay, I have family in Texas, Alabama, California, etc. etc. blah. blah. and not to bust your preverbial bubble but this is not real. There are places like that in every state, for example. In Alabama there is a place called gravity hill where the exact same thing occurs. (put your car/truck in neutral and it rolls up hill by itself and stops in a down hill slope) I don’t know the technical stuff but I do know that it’s not just a thing that is in Texas. It’s world wide, there is a science behind it involving gravity and all that great stuff.

rhiann says:

January 20, 2006, 8:49 pm

u americans neva cease to amaze me!!!! funny funny pple!!!! anyway story doesnt sounds scary…I’ve heard betta

rhiann says:

January 20, 2006, 8:51 pm

you Americans never cease to amaze me!!! funny funny people!!! anyway I’ve heard scarier than this BUS story.

Elad Ttaw says:

January 24, 2006, 12:58 am

Where are you from rhiann? I’d like to try it out myself.

penny says:

January 24, 2006, 7:17 am

Total and utter ****

I’m sorry but no bus driver in the world is going to ask children to push a bus across train tracks

juan says:

February 4, 2006, 6:52 pm

you have to be really ignorant to believe that there is no such thing as ghosts! you can say that it is a illusion ,but how can you explain the fingerprints? maybe we should betta ask rhiann.

P says:

February 6, 2006, 2:19 am

it’s all gravity people! the bus crash never happened.

rebekah says:

February 7, 2006, 12:23 am

WELL FOR ALL YOU NONE BELIEVERS IT IS TRUE THAT REALLY DID HAPPEN FOR YOU GUYS WHO SAY IT DIDNT IF YOU DO YOUR RESERCH RIGHT YOU WILL FIND IT THERE. IF YOU GO TO THE PLACE THE STREETS THAT ARE RIGHT BESIDE IT ARE ALL THE NAMES OF THE CHILDREN WHO DIED.IM FROM SAN ANTONIO BORN AND RAISED AND THE REAL STORY IS THAT THE KIDS WERE COMING FROM A BASEBALL GAME THAT DAY THE BASEBALL FIELD THAT IS RIGHT BESIDE THE TRACKS AS WELL.THE BUS BROKE DOWN THE KIDS STAYED INSIDE AND THE TRAIN TOOK THEM. THATS WHY THE HELP PEOPLE BY PUSHING THEM OVER. I WENT SVERAL TIMES AND ALL TIMES IT HAPPEND. THERE WAS A LADY WHO CAME FROM WASHINGTON ONE OF THE NIGHTS I WENT AND SHE HAD A CAMERA WITH HER WHILE HER FRIEND WAS IN THE CAR SHE TOOK THE PICTURE. SHE SHOWED IT TO US AND ALL YOU CAN SEE IS THE CAR AND IN BACK OF IT A BRIGHT LIGHT SO ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT I BELIEVE

STEPHANIE says:

February 8, 2006, 6:22 pm

I DON’T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU NON-BELIEVERS, EXCEPT IT’S ENTIRLY TRUE WHAT HAPPENS AT THESE TRACKS IN SAN ANTONIO. I MYSELF HAVE BEEN THERE AND EXPIRENCED IT WITH A GROUP OF FAMILY MEMBERS. WE WENT THERE IN TWO SEPARATE CARS AND THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO EXPLAIN HOW YOUR CAR CAN MOVE (ALL BY IT’S SELF) WHILE IN NEUTRAL, UP A SMALL HILL AND OVER THE TRACKS, A TOTAL DISTANCE OF ABOUT 20 TO 25 FEET. IT IS AN EXPIRENCE I THINK ALL YOU NON-BELIEVERS WILL ENJOY.

Mark says:

February 8, 2006, 6:36 pm

That sounds like a bunch of poo-poo man

poor 100% “grade A” bullcrap man

POO-POO!!!

tyler says:

February 11, 2006, 9:11 pm

the fingerprints like a isad in my huant it works i have tried it here and i know what happens and these kids were ran over to

tyler says:

February 11, 2006, 10:06 pm

the only thing moving that car is gravity you dumbshits your
just to high up on the ground and its pulling your car that way

bobby says:

February 11, 2006, 10:07 pm

tyler, i think your right i aggree and really thats all it is

Angela says:

February 12, 2006, 8:13 pm

u pepole are dumb for beliveing scary storeis hahahahahaha losersssssssssssssssssss

Martha B says:

February 13, 2006, 12:19 am

I saw this on a rerun of “Unsolved Mysteries” about 2 weeks ago…they indicated that the story was true and well documented. It is also in several books about “ghost stories” and Texas…you can find the books at Barnes and Noble. I have heard this story many times…apparently this one is true.

Shelton says:

February 13, 2006, 8:39 pm

Oh my GOD Forgive Them for this stupidity!

Kimberley says:

February 14, 2006, 4:47 pm

I have read every one of these entries and all I can say is that I too have been there. It was about 3 years ago or so. Yes the car does move. I did it three times. The first time it stoped on the tracks, the second it stoped on the tracks and the third it went over. Now after leaving the tracks I want to the San Antonio Public Library and found NOTHING about it. The only thing found was about the one in Utah. I couldn’t do the powder thing, I had a white car. I cant remember where exactly it was at. I wish I could I would go back. It’s interesting. I think it is nothing but a gravity pull. But, the only weird thing that happened while I was at the tracks, my daughter was only 2 at the time and she was wide awake when we started the whole thing. The next thing I know she is out like a light.She woke up as soon as we started to leave the site. so if anyone can tell me where the tracks are at I would like to go again.

Kimberley says:

February 15, 2006, 10:11 am

For anyone wanting to go I have done some research again and the tracks are located at the cornor of Villamain Road and Shane Road. Go to mapquest.com and you can find the directions. Also you can go to http://www.snopes.com/horrors/ghosts/hndprint.asp and read about the real accident in Salt Lake City Utah and how it came to be told in San Antonio. I am not trying to tell anyone what to beleive. It’s a personal belief to everyone. But the actual accident is on that web site listed above and the tracks in San Antonio are listed above. Have fun. Something does move your car but I have my own beliefs on what it is.

Rachael says:

February 19, 2006, 12:46 am

Uhm..All i have to say is that this story is true!I’ve
done this many times before it was scary!

dueroc says:

February 19, 2006, 5:58 pm

one time me and some friends went out there we saw all the kids that had gotten killed there and i talked to the ghosts and they told me that actually they hadnt died in a crash but back in the thirties there was a real bad batch of heroin that was going around and one of the kids had scored some they all took a pretty lethal dose o uncut heroin and they all died within the hour but they asked me to finally tell the truth about the story so they could rest in peace……….

jeremiah says:

February 19, 2006, 11:29 pm

It is a true story, I went with my boyfriend, yes were gay. We video taped the sightings, it is just incredible. I will release the tape soon……

jeremiah says:

February 19, 2006, 11:42 pm

Another thing is that we were just two guys in Love sitting next to the railroad tracks with a camera, and the radio off, you can actually feel the breeze when you put you window off. I recommend any non-believers to go for themselves to witness this for yourself.

jeremiah says:

February 19, 2006, 11:47 pm

DJ RN who do you think you are? seriously you think someone is scared of you, pinche wey pendejo, me lu chupas wey y tu madre tambien. Te gusta el pepino?

ajust urself says:

February 20, 2006, 11:57 am

I lived in San Antonio Texas for 5 years and know one of the children’s reletives who took me to the sight of the accident and we put it in neutral but nothing happend we just sat there so i really think this story is a fraud.

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DJ RN FROM DALLAS TX says:

February 20, 2006, 7:23 pm

wuz up then jeremiah hoe a*s bi*ch. Bi*ch think u got balls pinche hoto when u wanna box up, ***** anywhere u want meet up h*e is on bi*ch.Get yo a*s kick over some bi*ch a*s sh*t like this keep talking that s*it bi*ch u and yo gay a*s ****** a*s boyfriend.

DJ RN FROM DALLAS TX says:

February 20, 2006, 7:25 pm

wuz up then jeremiah hoe a*s bi*ch. Bi*ch think u got balls pinche hoto when u wanna box up, b*tch anywhere u want meet up h*e is on bi*ch.Get yo a*s kick over some bi*ch a*s sh*t like this keep talking that s*it bi*ch u and yo gay a*s fa*got a*s boyfriend.

DJ RN FROM DALLAS TX says:

February 20, 2006, 7:26 pm

P.S u and yo boyfriend can s*ck each other d*cks

Abigail says:

February 21, 2006, 7:29 pm

I HAVE BEEN THEIR IT IS REALLY FREAKY. I CANT WAIT TO GO BACK.

desirea says:

February 23, 2006, 5:30 pm

i have heard that this was a true story on the discovery channel and it is a rather intersting thing to watch i plan to see if it is true during spring break cuz i love san antonio.

joe tovar says:

February 25, 2006, 7:45 pm

oh my god!!!!!! dj rn from dallas tx u are like a faggg!! if any1 agrees with me say I plzz!

size z says:

February 25, 2006, 7:48 pm

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h-ville says:

February 25, 2006, 7:49 pm

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dugas says:

February 25, 2006, 7:50 pm

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jorden h. says:

February 25, 2006, 7:54 pm

omg we pranked all of yall!!!! every time some1 does that we push there car over!! next time some1 bring a rubber and ill have cex with ya!!!!!!!!just hop out of the car and ill be there!!

P.S. bring more than 1!!!

edna says:

February 28, 2006, 11:06 pm

i have heard of the story but i really havent gone there myself but my friend told me that it is true she showed me pictures and video camera but all i know that if i would have been there i proboly be so scared ill pee!!!!!!!!!!!1

jamie says:

March 2, 2006, 12:29 am

wow!!! thats pretty freaky!!! i wanna go do that someday. if any1 here has been 2 huntsville, tx plz e-mail me at surfer-09@hotmail.com

Jane Haley says:

March 2, 2006, 12:06 pm

I saw this story on TV. I believe it was on Haunted HIstory. I do feel sorry for these kids that were on the bus.

Georgous says:

March 3, 2006, 10:42 pm

yah im sorry i dont think its true. but this story isnt real that i have written its not completed but tell me if you like it so far pleeeeeezzzzzz!

Georgous says:

March 3, 2006, 10:49 pm

Rene was a woman whom can see ghosts. But only the spirits whom had stayed behind because they either thought that they were still alive or unfinished business with what had been once where they died or un happy –ness. Meanwhile she was helping Lorie sell antiqueâ??s in her house. While she was chatting about the job of Lories, mysteriously the door opens of lories dead twelve year old son denials room. It opens and toys started to move around. Lena took slow steps towards the train. Lorie yelled for her to step out of the room. You shouldnâ??t be in there your terribly rude and nosy. Is this your sons room René said in a scared low voice? Yes and you shouldnâ??t be in here. Here step aside. (Lorie shuts the door) personally while Iâ??m working in this business I cant keep an eye on you or the photographers for the antiques I have to trust you alright? I said alright!? Yes loud and clear lorie im really sorry I, I saw the door opened and I was coming to shut it andâ?¦. Theres no ands or buts! Or whys! Is that clear leneâ?¦ is it clear!? Yes maâ??am. You no I cantâ?¦.. Youâ?¦â?¦ shouldnâ??tâ?¦ I shouldnâ??t what lorie? Oh imâ?¦. Imâ?¦â?¦ imâ?¦.. Im sorry, you know for going off on you like that. Its just that I cant stand to see that room. But you should really should stay away from this room! (whaa whaa whaaaaa) Fergie can you get that the babys crying again! Yes madam. (ring ring ring) hold on one sec. (creek, ha ha ha) what the? (slam) lene are you alright? Umm yes fergie im fine. Umm not really I have a question. Okay but why ask me? Well why is lorie so ashamed of this room. Oh its really nothing. Its just memories. Oh boy jess made a poopie, (giggle) ill be right back ok dear, ya. { whispers} oh my gosh, theres something messed up Im going to have to do some research. Ok im back, lene are you okay? Yah just a lil shivery. Oh my sorry I took so long I have a great deal with an antique so it for 1.4 grand. Can you believe it. Wow thatâ??s great lorie. (wha wha wha) isnâ??t she the most beautiful baby you ever seen? Yes she quite is. { home shopping channel photographers} hey explain this piece of art. This antique is from classical times: derived from a period of ancient history, especially ancient Greece or Rome, or stylistically typical of such a period. a collectible decorative or household object, often a piece of furniture, which is valued because of its age. Thanks lorie. Okay that bout covers it. Now you can go home. Thanks. Yah sure any time.

Chapter 2
Next day back at the house.

(knock knock) hello any one home. (door opened) the heck. You shall not protect her (12 year old boy speaks in a scary voice) how did you see me in my room you starred right at me. Who are you young boy? (boy disappears) oh hello lene, hey fergie. Ehat are you doing here so late? Well I have a question. Ask way. Who is dan? Who? Dan? from the door. Oh hes lories son. Son what son? Her dead son. Maybe you should go!

To be continued.

Georgous says:

March 3, 2006, 10:55 pm

what ya think about my story?

Georgous says:

March 3, 2006, 10:57 pm

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Georgous says:

March 3, 2006, 11:00 pm

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Sidonia says:

March 9, 2006, 3:25 pm

I was watching a show on Sci Fi, it was tthe first time I heard the story. It was a show talking about myths that are true or false. the had a woman do the test and her car begin to move across and they also saw prints on the back bumper

Dalton says:

March 10, 2006, 12:52 am

i live in brownsville tx and my grandfather had went there and tried it and sad he saw the fingers of little kids the hand prints were only about 3-5 in”
creepy i know

Tina Tennessee says:

March 11, 2006, 3:43 pm

Although i do believe in the spirit world i did some resurch of my own.The train wreck in question did happen..December 1 1938 @ 8:43 am a school bus headed for Jordan High School was hit by a Denver andd Rio Grande Western Railroad it killed 23 students and the bus driver the one thing is that the crash happend 1,100 milles from San Antonio in Midvale Utah…Heres the rest of the story.. LATEST REPORT.

The San Antonio Ghost Children

Digest Number 59

Exploring the facts behind an urban legend.

By Virginia and Daniel Barnett

San Antonio, which sits on the Salado River some 275 miles south of the Dallas/Fort Worth area, is home to an unusual ghost story that caught our attention a few months ago, especially when a film crew invited representatives of the North Texas Skeptics to participate in a documentary to be broadcast on The Discovery Channel in the not-too-distant future.
The North Texas Skeptics are apparently the only active skeptics’ organization in Texas today that we’re aware of, so it was only fitting that one of us ? in this case, Ginny Barnett ? lend some skeptical observations to the film project. Thus, Ginny and Danny made the six-hour trip down Interstate 35 to visit the film crew and the site of the alleged haunting.

Unfortunately, as many of you are now aware, Ginny developed a life-threatening illness down in San Antonio just hours before she was scheduled to appear in front of the camera, so Danny received permission from Ginny to take her place, as well as all of her research notes.

And where did Danny travel to find these ghosts on a sweltering Sunday afternoon in San Antonio? Not to the historic Alamo, where many Mexican soldiers and Texan defenders lost their lives in battle – prime real estate for the restless undead. Not to the nearby Hotel Menger, a lavish landmark believed to be inhabited by its own spectres, including that of the founder of King Ranch. No, Danny instead found himself chasing ghosts at an isolated railroad crossing out in the middle of nowhere with only a 32-oz. cola to help make the 100-degree heat more bearable. And he was far from alone, thanks to the legend of the San Antonio Ghost Children that has drawn historians, paranormal investigators, and the just plain curious from all over to this unassuming locale.

From Legend to Tourist Attraction

According to the legend, sometime in the 1930s or 1940s a San Antonio schoolbus loaded with children stalled on the old Southern Pacific railroad tracks at the bend in the road where Villamain Street turns into Shane Road, not far from the nearby Mission San Francisco de la Espada. A passing train plowed into the bus before anyone had a chance to evacuate; the bus driver and all of the children were killed in the tragic collision. To commemorate the young victims, the city of San Antonio named the streets of a nearby neighborhood after the deceased schoolchildren.

Reports of strange phenomena at the railroad crossing began to surface some time afterwards, with the first such accounts dating back to at least the 1970s. If a car stalls on westbound Shane Road 80-100 feet from the tracks, or if someone just stops their car at that same point and puts the car in neutral, an unseen force will push that car down the road, over the railroad tracks, and safely out of the path of any oncoming train. Dust the car with talcum powder, and mysterious fingerprints show up on the back of the car. Why, this must be the work of those poor schoolchildren killed so many years ago, forever pushing automobiles over the railroad tracks to prevent motorists from sharing their fate!

But wait, there’s more. Doubters were told that westbound Shane Road is actually an upward grade, which meant that the cars weren’t simply rolling downhill and over the tracks; the ghost children had to be pushing the cars uphill to clear the railroad crossing. Some who have visited the site also claim that the cries of these children can even be heard on occasion.

When Danny drove out to the site to rendezvous with a film crew from Actuality Productions in connection with the Discovery Channel project, he also found a steady stream of people driving up in their automobiles to experience the phenomena themselves. Sports cars, hatchbacks, SUVs, and even the occasional heavy truck attempted the experiment, positioning themselves at an appropriate spot on Shane that someone had marked on the pavement with fluorescent red paint. With only a couple of exceptions, all of them cleared the tracks ? traveling uphill, mind you ? and rolled onto Villamain. Even Danny’s car cleared the tracks in 3 out of 4 attempts.

Many of the drivers came prepared with bottles of baby powder to sprinkle on their trunks and rear bumpers. Unexplained fingerprints started popping up on the car almost as soon as the talcum hit. This understandably caused a lot of excitement with some folks. Various people came up to Danny swearing that this whole ghost thing had to be true; how much more proof did the skeptics need?

Ghost Story or Fish Story?

When Ginny researched the story of the “Haunted Railroad Crossing,” as the legend is sometimes known, she found a few problems with the original story. For starters, nobody could pin an exact date on the accident from which the story sprang. To complicate matters, not a single newspaper in Texas has ever documented any such accident taking place in San Antonio, not even The San Antonio Express-News. But Ginny didn’t let up; after some diligent research and a few phone calls, she finally got what she was looking for.

The accident occurred on December 1, 1938. At 8:43 a.m., a school bus loaded with students was heading for Jordan High School. Visibility was severely compromised by a snowstorm and heavy fog when the bus crossed the railroad tracks. The Flying Ute, a freight locomotive belonging to the Denver & Rio Grande Western Railroad, plowed into the bus, killing 23 Jordan students as well as the bus driver. It was the worst motor vehicle accident in American history at that time.

There was just one little detail that somehow got overlooked. The accident took place in the small town of Midvale, Utah, which sits just south of Salt Lake City ? some 1,100 miles northwest of San Antonio.

So how did this tragic event develop into a San Antonio ghost legend? Owing to its very nature, the story quickly spread across the nation, appearing in newspapers everywhere from The New York Times to The San Antonio Express-News. The latter paper, for whatever reason, ran the story for about 10 days, including gruesome details of the accident. The local media saturation may have resulted in San Antonio residents telling their children that the wreck happened locally, completely forgetting about the Salt Lake City dateline. As for the streets near the railroad tracks allegedly named after the young victims, they were instead named by the subdivision developer after his grandchildren.

Now all we had to do was figure out why those cars were rolling uphill over the railroad tracks. And where were those fingerprints coming from?

Running “Up” That Hill

Jonathan Levitt of Actuality Productions spent a lot of time with some local surveyors who took careful measurements of the grade of Shane Road as it approached the tracks. While Danny didn’t record their exact readings, the surveyors did report something fascinating about that uphill grade that the ghost children push cars over ? turns out it isn’t uphill after all, but rather downhill for most of the stretch. It certainly looks uphill to many people approaching the tracks, but stand on the shoulder of the road next to the tracks and you may detect a slight downward slope. It’s all a perfectly natural but nevertheless convincing optical illusion.

Alamo City Paranormal, a local organization that conducts its own paranormal investigations, also had the road surveyed a while back. According to their findings as reported by Katie Phillips of the Lone Star Spirits Web site, if someone starts 80 feet away from the tracks and moves westward toward the tracks, the road slopes downhill about 12 inches in a span of 65 feet. The road levels off for 5-7 feet and then rises 6 inches over the remaining 8-10 feet.

The point is that if you set your car in neutral gear 80 feet away from the tracks, the car will slowly roll downhill for 65 feet, gaining enough momentum to carry that car over the small uphill slope and the railroad tracks until it’s dumped onto northbound Villamain. It’s an explanation that doesn’t involve poltergeists ? only a little basic physics.

As for the fingerprints showing up on people’s cars, many people wash their cars to remove dirt and older fingerprints before they drive over the tracks in order to avoid picking up their own prints. Their cars are definitely clean – but only up to a certain point. Just as traces of blood can be discovered with Luminol on floors and carpets despite careful cleaning, fingerprints demonstrate a similar resiliency due to the oils secreted by fingers that cause the prints (ask any criminal investigator). These oils are surprisingly durable and resistant, and can remain on most car surfaces, including chrome, for weeks or even years despite various rainstorms and trips to the car wash. This is yet another reason why museum curators become displeased if anyone touches the exhibits. Your best bet would be to wash the car with a degreaser rather than traditional car washing compounds and then see if any fingerprints show up after the car clears the tracks.

And the occasional screams heard at the site? There’s a peacock farm on Shane Road not too far away from the tracks. Suffice it to say that not all birds go “tweet-tweet.”

While the story of the San Antonio Ghost Children is indeed fascinating, our investigation seems to cast doubt on any poltergeist activity at the railroad tracks, providing scientific explanations for many of the phenomena observed at the site. Ours is by no means the last word on this subject, as some folks also claim to have captured ghosts on photographs and videotape at the crossing. We’ll leave such images for another time, though, especially considering that if any haunting resulted from the bus crash, it seems more reasonable to expect the ghosts to appear in a small Utah town instead of in San Antonio.

Special thanks to Scott Goldie, Jonathan Levitt, and the rest of the crew from Actuality Productions as well as Jim Lindsey of Jim Lindsey Productions. Watch for the North Texas Skeptics on the Actuality Productions program Miracle Hunters, to be broadcast on the Discovery Channel either later this year or in early 2004.

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SAN ANTONIO
— This is one San Antonio ghost story that refuses to die.

Many people have heard the story of the “ghost tracks,” reported on by the San Antonio Express-News. The legend holds that sometime in the 1930s (or maybe 1940s or 1950s, depending on who is telling the story), a school bus stalled as it crossed over a set of railroad tracks on the South Side. A train crashed into the bus, killing the children and the driver.

Some people say the ghosts of the children remain to push other stalled vehicles across the tracks and avoid another tragedy. Others say talcum powder sprinkled on the trunks of their cars will reveal children’s handprints on the trunk.

Some say the streets, with names like Cindy Sue and Laura Lee, are named in honor of the dead children.

Others say, at night, you can hear the cries of the children.

Docia Williams, who has written two books about local ghost stories, says it’s a bunch of hooey.

“The more I wrote it, the more doubtful I got about the whole thing,” Williams said.

One thing that’s certain, said Margaret Madrid, who has lived on Laura Lee Road for the last 15 years, is that hordes of people will pay a visit to the tracks this week as part of their Halloween fun. The tracks are located where Villamain Road turns into Shane Road and intersects with the Southern Pacific Railroad near Mission Espada.

Madrid, 60, said she used to go out to the site and do the same thing when she was in high school.

“We used to come out here also for that,” Madrid said.

The situation is always the same. A car full of teens will drive onto the tracks, put their car in neutral and wait to be “pushed” to safety by the children. Then, they’ll pull off to the side of the road and sprinkle some kind of powder on the trunk of the car to look for tiny fingerprints.

Madrid has seen it over and over at all times of the day and at all times of the year. But the traffic peaks close to Halloween, so much so that curious ghost hunters have to wait in line.

“We see kids there all the time,” Madrid said. “We see girls out by themselves there, looking.”

Madrid said the real concern is for the visitors to the area. Lighting is bad, and the condition of the roads has deteriorated over the years.

“I keep fussing with (railroad and city officials), and it needs to be fixed up,” Madrid said.

But is the legend true?

In a word, “no,” according to Williams.

In researching her books, Williams sifted through decades of newspaper clippings. She interviewed current and former railroad employees. For everyone who said they had heard of the legend, she pressed for details.

And each time, nobody could offer proof the collision ever happened.

The street names offer no proof because Tom McCreless, brother of Gordon Sealie McCreless, who built the McCreless Mall, developed the subdivision. Tom McCreless named the streets after his grandchildren.

“So much for that story,” Williams said.

But what about testimony from people who say their cars really are pushed over the tracks?

Williams said she believes that’s just gravity acting on an oddly sloped roadway.

But what about the fingerprints on the backs of people’s cars?

“My husband was in the Department of Public Safety for 37 years,” Williams said. “He says those fingerprints can be around a long time.”

Twentieth century history also helps to debunk the legend.

Jo Myler, manager of the Texana /Genealogy Room at the San Antonio Public Library, said the accident could not have taken place during the 1930s, because school buses were not state-mandated until 1948. That means the streets were named years before school districts had to provide transportation.

And if the crash occurred sometime in the 1950s, “I think I would probably remember something like that,” Madrid said.

So if the legend is not true, how did it ever get started? Williams said teen-age boys probably made up the stories to scare their girlfriends.

“I think that’s exactly what’s happened,” Williams said.

But what about the cries of the children?

“Another story says that on late afternoons, when it’s misty and cold and damp, you can hear moans and cries of those poor little spirits,” Williams said. “If you listen close, you can hear it’s coming from the peacock farm right up the road. They can really squawk.”
Sorry guys not this one…..

virginia says:

March 17, 2006, 1:32 pm

hey i do belive in ya i have been there and we stoped and i noticed we were going up hill and i was told that a bus stoped and it couldnt go and the train crashed and the streets are now named after the kids. and if you dont belive in it you should go there yourself.and then hopefully you belive in it. thanx

Sid and Angela says:

March 18, 2006, 5:04 pm

THIS STORY IS PRETTY FREAKY AND I WOULD LOVE TO JUST GO THERE TO SEE IF IT IS TRUE.

Julie says:

March 23, 2006, 11:57 am

I dont think this is true.

ashley marie says:

March 25, 2006, 3:00 pm

I just wonder at the fact that at least 5 people who have commented have asked where the site is but no one, not one, has ever posted the location of the event. what does this mean?
a. no one here has actually been to the site and just wants to fit in
b. this event never happened and people just want to be a part of the story.
if some one wants to prove that they have at least been there i would like to see that person post the location and directions so all those who want to go can. whatâ??s there to be afraid of? are you scared that people will find out itâ??s just a hoax?

Comment by tomy | 10.19.2005 | 4:46 pm
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i just wanted to comment that this location is near the missions on the south side.. past millitary.. just to let you all know that dont..
take care and check it out..

Juan says:

March 26, 2006, 4:52 am

i think that it did really happen.All the people that are saying that it didn’t happen are dumb.The guy that said that their your own fingerprints doesn’t know what hes talking about.Apperently he thinks that he knows everything.I have actually experinced that, and i had bearly cleaned the bumper, and im pretty sure that nobody touched it.

RACHEL L says:

March 26, 2006, 2:10 pm

WHILE I WAS IN THE MILITARY, MYSELF AND SOME FRIENDS WOULD GO THERE AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE. IT’S REAL. YOU HAVE TO ROLL UPHILL TO GET OVER THE TRACKS, AND THE HANDPRINTS ARE TOO SMALL TO BE YOURS OR ANY OTHER ADULTS. IT ALWAYS WORKS, NO MATTER WHAT SIZE YOUR VEHICLE IS, AND IT’S TRUE ABOUT THE NEARBY STREETSIGNS BEARING THE NAMES OF THE DEAD KIDS. I SUGGEST GOING TO THESE TRACKS IF YOU GET THE CHANCE, YOU WON’T BE DISAPPOINTED…

manzanitaluvspapitas says:

April 14, 2006, 7:56 pm

ITS TRUE I’VE BEEN THERE. ABOUT THE SAME STORIES IN EVERY STATE IS ALSO TRUE. BECASUE IN UTAH HAPPENED THE SAME THING BUT IT WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. DID YOU KNOW THAT IN EVERY STATE THERE IS A SAME FREAKY STORY. PEOPLE WHO DON’T BELIEVE THIS SHOULD SEE IT WITH THEIR OWN EYES.

Helen Back says:

April 22, 2006, 12:02 am

Most likely the same type of “natural”, not supernatural occurance that we experience over here in PA, in Bedford County. Gravity Hill. A place where you go to, stop your car, put it in neutral, wait a while, and then the car starts to roll, …uphill. I should start a rumor that a giant Rubber Band died at that spot back in the twenty’s, and to this day, it still pulls you back uphill. And then, Ill look for the closest street name, and say that was the Rubber Bands name. Anywho, heres the URL for Gravity Hill, a Google search will produce a lot more. http://www.bedfordcounty.net/gravityhill/index.htm

vikki, of texas says:

April 26, 2006, 3:29 pm

it really is true

Dustin says:

April 28, 2006, 5:44 pm

I just wanted to share something with everyone about this subject. Recently, this particular case was debunked. Apparently, what seems like an incline in the road is actually a decline. After being surveyed, it was proven that the actual street was going downhill, and it is nothing but a great optical illusion. Here’s a link to what recently transpired when The Discover Channel did a peice on the railroad tracks…copy and paster the link below

http://www.geocities.com/rleys/digestnumber59.html

brandi says:

April 29, 2006, 3:26 am

not true it was on the discovery channel. its all in the gravity. the streets were all randomly named and the bus crash never happened.the finger prints with the powder also never happened. can you say urban legend.

southtx says:

May 2, 2006, 7:50 pm

well ive heard lots of this story and their are videos. this tv station from monterrey mex went there and filmed like around 12am with alot of people present and they put baby powder in the back of the accord then they left it on the middle of the tracks put in neutral and it started to move of course they all got freaked out, after the car stopped they all checked it and little hand prints were seen sooo

oh yeah have you heard about the bus crash that happened in the valley of tx and the bus went down into this kind of river and the students died n i went there n damn i felt a weird vibe soooo if you all kno anyhting bout it post it.

Mandy says:

May 7, 2006, 2:42 pm

I think it is tottaly true. I’ve never been there but it sounds like fun. Next time I go to San Antonio I am going to have to go there.

Mandy says:

May 7, 2006, 2:43 pm

I think it is tottaly true. I’ve never been there but it sounds like fun. Next time I go to San Antonio I am going to have to go there. You should go there sometime.

PooPooCrud says:

May 7, 2006, 2:51 pm

this stuff is total ****. you guys shoodn’t believe this ****.it taste like poopoocrud.

PooPooCrud says:

May 7, 2006, 2:52 pm

this stuff is total ****. you guys shoodn’t believe this ****.it taste like poopoocrud.it smells like it 2.

Valarie perez says:

May 17, 2006, 12:36 pm

this is true because my family and i went and well we put powdwer on our truck and well we saw the fingerprints and they did push our car over and also if you put a basketball on the floor very still where it cant move the children that died there will push it over the train tacks too and i also have videos of it when we did it so if you want to see them email me at i_love_danny_gonzalez_pace_high@yahoo.com or
valarie_prz@yahoo.com

shiane says:

May 18, 2006, 11:06 am

Ok one it seems some people have decided to get off subject. Ummmmm………….so not right about what they were talking about. You do not talk about those things when there are some children who visit this site it is just plain immoral. Another thing i do believe this story is true. I have never visited it myself but it have been on some t.v. shows that i have seen one being unsolved mysteries. People can we please stay on subject and not get off on something horribly wrong.

Moiria says:

May 20, 2006, 11:11 pm

i just visited there last night! its amazing… you know when youre close because all the streets are named after the kids… its a very somber feeling… anyways we did it 3 times and everytime… from a complete stop… we were pushed over the tracks… it even feels as if your excelerating over them! but our car was OFF!!!!!!! you take southton street then turn right on shane and its about a mile down i’d say…

Kim says:

May 21, 2006, 8:13 pm

This is so fake…Look it up and it says theres a hill or something like that. I live in this side and been there so many timez and even got off and walked all over the tracks….SO FAKE!!!!!! Go to the mental hospital thats abandon. Now thats real and super dark!! This railroad is like every ordinary railroad. Ive been there drunk and sober. The only thing you’ll get is a ticket for being there! But nada scarry :)

Sia Nyteblade says:

June 6, 2006, 4:24 pm

….Looooooooong list of comments. Oi! Look, you guys can beleive this thing or not, me, personally, I would have to go there myself and check it out before I can say whether or not I beleive all of that. Sorry, it’s just how I am.

Nina says:

June 7, 2006, 12:26 pm

My friend has been there and she said they didnt beleve it so they tryed it and they were trying to push it over and then they stopped for a minute and they saw a white floating figure that just pushed the car over the tracks in one push!Thay said it was very scary!

marquis says:

June 7, 2006, 12:59 pm

I havent been out there yet i just heard about it and i been lookin it up and it seem like errbody sayin its true….can somebody tell me the name of the rail road? i plan on goin soon

Destiny says:

June 7, 2006, 9:37 pm

I have already explained this on another “haunted hill” story. It is call a grvity hill. It has something to do will gravity and the rotation of the earth. But yes, this place really is haunted.

David Rohan life-long resident of Bulverde says:

June 14, 2006, 11:49 am

Great urban legend, yet,stilljust another urban legend.
Years ago, a local television station (KENS-5)contracted a surveyor to officially establish the roadway’s angle. They claimed the street surface was actually at a declination of 2 degrees as it approaches the railroad track crossing, despite an illusionary appearance of a level, or even slightly inclined road.
It is also confirmed that there was no record found that would substantiate the story of a school bus crash nor of children that were not specifically schoolchildren, but a church or youth group.
The Crossing is located on
Villamain rd,after crossing it changes to Shane road that connects to Southton Rd.
As for hand prints revealed upon bumpers or trunks, I must point out that latent fingerprints can be lifted from some objects years after they are made; crimes have been solved thusly. The seemingly self evident conclusion must be that any surfaces displaying hand prints were not properly cleaned to begin with, disqualifying the results. If you intend to experiment with powder on your bumper, clean the surface first using a degreasing agent.
The nearby streets are actually named after the kids of a land developer named McCreless, but the popular notion is to attribute the names to the dead children.

Ann says:

June 25, 2006, 9:03 pm

I’ve never had the opportunity to go but, i’m planning on it with my friends. I wasn’t sure if the sotries were true but i know someone who actually went and took pictures around there. On one of the pictures you can see a little girl who wasnt there at the time they took the pic.

Kassie says:

June 26, 2006, 12:20 pm

This story is soooo true. Ive actually been there with my cousin and uncle. the reason the children push your car over the tracks is because they dont want you to get hurt and as long as ppl keep going there and doing this, the spirits of the children CANNOT rest in peace. So im asking everyone who is thinking about goin “Please dont go, and let these poor children rest in peace”

Peter Griffin says:

June 26, 2006, 7:12 pm

Ha ah ah ah ah ah propane.

autumn says:

June 27, 2006, 4:35 pm

I have heard about this legend. But this happened a long time ago and it might’ve been lost in records along the way. However, I heard about it because I’m always interested in paranormal things such as this. I come from a culture where paranormal phenomena is acceptable in cultural beliefs. I have experienced some myself as a kid and still remembers them. The kind I have seen are not transparent or floating in air. They are more of shadowy figures and like us- a solid human figure. However, they will disappear in a matter of time when you don’t notice them for a second.
About this story, I have seen it in these documantry ghost stories where ghost investigators goes and find the most haunted places in America and this railroad was included. In the video, you’ll see this railroad while a lady put some powder on her rear bumper and her car in neutral. She sits in the car while the car just goes up the hill,across the railroad and over to the other side. She gets out and it shows little hand prints and finger prints where the powders were.
It was said that a bus was carrying kids on when it came across the tracks. Suddenly the bus died or somehow it might’ve gotten stuck on the tracks. The train came and hit the bus with the kids on it.
So the legend of this story goes to say that who ever stop at the railroad will get push by these ghostly little hand prints to the other side to safety only.

Stacy says:

June 29, 2006, 4:47 pm

Grammar people Grammar!!!

St. Jimmy says:

June 30, 2006, 1:33 pm

born and raised in San Antonio …it is ture..been there alot of times and it works..I thought it was a bunch of bull **** but its not. However if you do the thing with the powder you should wash the car off to get rid of all the finger or handprints that ight be on the car..drive to the tracks and right before you go on them put the powder on the back of the car…you will see no handprints..drive up to the tracks put your car in netrual and your car will move over the tracks. affter you are over them there will be small hand prints.

??????Confused says:

July 3, 2006, 4:24 pm

Hey guys I’m not sure what to believe but if i go to San Antonio i’ll check it out.
OH and by the way please stop using in bad words. There may be kids on this site. thanks

Allyson says:

July 9, 2006, 4:51 pm

My g-ma lives there

BRENDA JIMENEZ says:

July 9, 2006, 7:18 pm

MY FRIEND AND HER FAMILY TRIED THAT AND IT REALLY WORKS!!!!I AM SOO CREEPED OTU!!!!

Nina says:

July 9, 2006, 9:46 pm

It works, I have tried it!! But the story is told different. It was a bus that had stalled on the tracks and was struck by an oncoming train. To prevent the same thing from happening again, the children push your car over the tracks. When we were trying it, some people were using a ball and it would roll up the hill, over the tracks, and down. It’s really freaky!

elizabeth says:

July 11, 2006, 3:16 am

i have heard that story and i havent experienced it but i know alot pf people that have and i believe it

Monica says:

July 12, 2006, 6:52 pm

I live about 2 miles from the tracks.Yes, if you put your car in neutral it will be pushed over the tracks but no buss accidents were ever reported there.It is a fun thing to late night anyway but be warned,police don’t like all the people being there so late and will often show up.

Brandee says:

July 12, 2006, 10:02 pm

Okay, I have never been there but I do believe it because I’ve heard hear say and you can believe it about ghosts. For those of you who do not believe it don’t trust it until you try it.

KATHY says:

July 15, 2006, 9:36 pm

I HAVE BEEN THERE AND IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED. WE PUT BABY POWDER ON MY SONS CAR AND THERE WERE 2 TINY HANDPRITNS. THERE IS ALSO A PLACE IN OKLAHOMA WHERE THIS HAPPENS GOING UP A HILL. IT WAS SAID THAT A SLAVE WAS KILLED THERE FOR TRYING TO ESCAPE AND IF YOUR CAR IS PARKED THERE HE WILL TRY TO PUSH IT TO GET IT GOING AGAIN. THIS ALSO WORKS! I THINK IT IS THE NEATEST THING!

InuYouko says:

July 17, 2006, 12:49 am

alot of stories like that have been told here in el paso tx and some people believe its true but my brother tried it and nothing happened so to be this is just a story someone made up because they were bored, and i looked up any *bus crash* in san antonio and el paso and found nothing so maybe something else is doing that in san antonio, but not in el paso

yolanda says:

August 5, 2006, 3:47 pm

that’s a bunch of ****. everybody that’s saying it’s true and they saw this or that…is totally lying!!!
a guy that writes for san antonio express news spilled
the beans last halloween. there was NEVER a bus crash there. there is NO RECORD of anything like that ever happening. people started making that mess up to make halloween a little more scarier. in fact, my friend put his car in neutral and he said cars roll because of the slight incline (a small hill) by the tracks and he never saw any fingerprints or heard any voices.

antoinette says:

August 5, 2006, 5:37 pm

I saw on some show that they went to those railroad tracks and they said that the fingerprints that are left are your own. Whenever you go over the railroad tracks the excess baby powder comes off and you are left with the prints from hands that closed the trunk. And there are no kids that died in the bus, there is no record of it in San Antonio archives. The names of the neraby streets are they names of the man who paid for the renovations of some nearby buildings. That is what I saw ans believe.

Robert says:

August 7, 2006, 12:42 pm

To all those who think this myth isn’t real, here is a story.
A few days ago, my wife and my three children were taken to the train tracks for th first time by my in-laws and showed us what happens. My father in law did the usual thing stopping about twenty yards away from the tracks, putting his van in neutral and it proceeded to roll across the tracks. After is stopped, we all carefully inspected the back of his van and saw prints remarkably smaller than my oldest children’s hands who are five and six years of age (for those thinking the handprints are a result of past encounters with a vehicle prior to visiting the site). We decided to try it again, this time with the engine off. He performed the same steps, however from a complete stop we quickly lurched foward at a higher rate of speed than the previous time across the tracks. Upon crossing, the speed was constant for about thirty to fifty yards away from the intersection. It was only after my father in law applied the brakes did we stop. Afterwards, we quickly stepped out to investigate and noticed many more prints than before, including larger hands prints on either side! My two oldest children were perplexed into what was happening.
The next day, I was in the driver’s seat of my wife truck to try the same thing. Prior to trying it, my wife and I carefully inspected the tailgate area for any marks my children may have made. Upon applying a little more baby powder, we reinspected the area and nothing was apparent. With my family in the truck, we performed the routine, engine off, with stunning success. My wife and I, looked at the back and saw the faint, but familiar signs of small handprints. Acting upon a dare from my wife, my six year old and I walked towards the tracks to see if we would notice any physical changes. I asked my son if he had felt anything while standing on the tracks. At the time, I felt my arms were heavy as being pulled down and slightly away from my body , the way my kids do to get me to follow them somewhere. Without telling him anything or even hinting to him, he told me he was feeling exacatly what I was experiencing! He was understandably scared but I assured him everything was okay.
My wife decided to give it a try in the driver’s seat while my son and I stood back and watched. As the trucked rolled silently past me, I was paying close attention to the back of the truck. As I was scanning the tailgate area, I saw a print form right before my eyes!! It was a distinctive mark that was not there prior to what I saw. On a closer look, we saw more than just the one set I saw, but several smalller sets of four fingers on the lower part of the tailgate equally spaced out in pairs of two and even conataining the inner wrinkles of the finger joints. Also we noticed the same pair of larger prints on the either side if the bed area.
Some of you may think all of this story is made up, but that’s okay. I know what happen and I know what I saw and felt. Maybe the tale of the stalled bus isn’t true, but there is a presense at those tracks.

E.M. says:

August 8, 2006, 3:35 pm

I’v had that happen to me, & I totaly believe you!

manny ramirez says:

August 9, 2006, 8:09 pm

first of all it is real if u get on netural before u get on the tracks u dont move at all but then if u get on neutral there at the ghosts track u actually do feel it 2nd of all u cant be moved on a straight road but there u felt it pushing u and it just gets faster and faster and well the hand prints do show
and well anybody that dont think it is true should go and try it for themselves cuz they will realize that it true

ROSIE says:

August 9, 2006, 11:34 pm

FRIST OF ALL ITS NOT DOWN HILL ITS UP HILL THAN AFTER CROSSING THE TRACKS THEN IT GOES DOWN HILL. ITS TURE STOP HATING.IM FROM SAN ANTONIO I’VE BEEN THERE LIKE 5 OR EVEN MORE TIMES.WHY TALK IF U HAVENT EVEN BEEN THERE GO SEE FOR YOURSELF!!!!!!!

Connie says:

August 10, 2006, 1:44 pm

I’ve been there and yes, you do go over the tracks and all, but I think there has to be other reasons for it. Something scientific like magnetic pulls or something. I believe in ghosts, but I don’t think they are here. And the railroad, school bus thing? I’ve lived in Texas, Iowa, Indiana, and Illinois and those stories are told everywhere there’s a spooky railroad track. I think buses need to be more careful. I agree that the mental hospital is much spookier if you are on that side of town anyways. But be careful when you go there because its right next to a jail or something and they’ll tow your vehicle and site you for trespassing.

Rabecca says:

August 15, 2006, 5:22 pm

Will you guys make up your minds is it real or fiction? There is evidence and there is also a logical explantion. So which one is it you guys.You tell me.

Anna says:

August 20, 2006, 6:07 pm

I`ve been there twice the first time I put baby powder and saw the finger/hand prints the 2nd time I wased my car and made sure not to get finger prints on it and then put the baby powder on it that time there were no finger prints/hand prints. So it is true it is just our own finger prints. But belive what you want to belive.

Anna says:

August 20, 2006, 6:12 pm

Your car/s only move because there is a slight hill and it happens in alot of places in the US so dont think it is a dead kid it is just your finger/hand prints and a small hill even though it may not look like a hill at all there is a small hill trust me, my friends and I love to try to find scary things and if we can prove them wrong we do.

Anna says:

August 20, 2006, 6:16 pm

Sorry one more thing when you put the baby powder on your suposed to put alot on after your car moves down the small slope that looks straigh the wind has blown some of the powder off and then your left with your finger/hand prits on the back of your car.

franky frank says:

August 24, 2006, 11:53 pm

Even though it’s not true, it’s all about fun and spending your time with friends. If it was true I’d say push on your brakes and let those dead little ******** work to get your F150 over that hump, ha ha! That would be impressive!

Boogey Boogey N!@@=&!!!

S.S. says:

August 27, 2006, 7:54 pm

I don’t live in Texas but I did see this story once on a documentary called “Ghost Stories” back in the mid 1990s. While I do believe in ghosts, I have heard that this particular story was made up and is not true. But, that is just what I was told.

Shawn says:

August 31, 2006, 1:49 am

I live in Louisiana and I remember seeing this story on telvision. It had been years ago since I have last seen anything on television about this. I would really like to go and check it out just for kicks and giggles. I will make sure to wash my car and not touch the rear of the car before I apply the baby powder. I would really like to see it so I can believe, I have to see to believe. I am really interested in what people have to say about this whole ordeal.

Denise says:

September 4, 2006, 3:25 pm

Hey well I am from San Antonio and I hav been to the Ghost tracks many times. I know you have read alot of stories from people saying that it is not real . But look at where they are from. Not from SA so dont believe i just went the other day with some friends and i still felt the pulse of one of the childrens hand on my arm almost as if it were holding me back. it feels so damn creepy, also it is so wird cause u can see them in pics if u take some. but sometimes when u bad mouth them when u r there they wont push u over the tracks so go see for ya self

Douglas Smith says:

September 9, 2006, 11:11 pm

I am a real goast hunter. This is no hunt. It is an optical illusions. The car is going down a hill. The name of the childern that you see where name’s of the constrution workers children that built the home’s. The builder use there name to name the street’s in the subdevition.
There was neather a bus crash there.

Douglas Smith says:

September 9, 2006, 11:21 pm

This is a false story. There was nevery a school bus /train crash there. It is an optical illusios When you are there you are realy looking down a hill. So your car rolls down it.
The street are name from the constrution workers children that built the homes there. The buider name the street’s
If some one tell you that it was a bus/train crash there is because they dont have there factes right. Like so many ghost tell is a false ghost story.
Douglas

tori baxter says:

September 11, 2006, 11:53 am

lily chill itsd just a story its kool you researched it and all but you dont have to ruin it for the rest of us its fun minx11@praize.com

Michael Lover says:

September 18, 2006, 3:55 pm

Well I heard the same thing but here in Albany,Texas….I think this whole thing is kinda fake…..though I’m gonna try 2 find the real place where it happened and go check it out…

Rachel says:

September 19, 2006, 2:42 pm

I have lived in San Antonio all my life and have visited the tracks on numerous occassions. For those of you that don’t know of the location, it is on the south side of San Antonio off of Military Drive. If you are in the area of South Park Mall… Start out driving EAST on Military Drive towards I35. Keep going East towards Roosevelt, you are going to pass Roosevelt Street and turn right towards the old cemetary that is off Military (the one behind Memorial Stadium),continue past the old cemetary and past the Stinson Field(where the single Engines plane land), you are then going to turn left and pass over the old bridge that is said to be the “donkey lady” bridge. Then you turn right when you reach the Aquaducts. You are going to see several different roads that lead onto Mission trails and recreation areas etc but do not turn onto these…you will get lost. you will be in an area that looks desolate, like farm area..once you see the train tracks follow them all the way down the street until the road turns left onto and over the tracks. This is the famous area that everyone speaks of! Drive past the tracks about a hundred feet, turn around and put your car in neutral. The car will be pushed if you park your car as far back as the yellow train crossing sign that is there or even if you stop right at the tracks. you will be pushed UP over the hill of the train tracks and at least three or 400 feet past the tracks! Be sure to turn the steering wheel to the right so you don’t hit the fence. Leave your car in neutral the entire time though if no one is anxiously waiting or hurrying you along to try this next…if you have the time, do it. It will push you down the street for a good couple of minutes before your car finally comes to a stop. I hope these directions are somewhat helpful. I will definitely go back soon and write down better ones like specific street names and such for folks that are visiting from out of town.

Nikki & Shell says:

September 20, 2006, 2:09 am

First of all we don’t know how the story is told or how it went, but me and my friends went for the Labor Day weekend. Here are the directions to this place from UTSA. Or you can mapquest it thats what we did. Find Pecan Valley Dr. and make a right then make a left onto S. New Braunfels Ave. Turn right onto S E Military Dr. then turn left onto S. Presa St. then turn right on Graf Rd. Its 9101 Graf Rd. once u pass the little tracks go straight then turn left keep going straight untill u can’t go anymore then u will see another set of railroad tracks most likely there will be people there. Make sure the back of ur car is clean before u go. Here is what we did becuz we really didn’t think it was true until we tried it 3 times and man did we freak out. Ok we were like about 3ft away from the tracks when my friend put the car in neutral and turned the car off just to make sure we had already put the baby powder on the back and i made sure there were no prints already. As we were sitting there the car all of a sudden started to move up and over the railroad tracks. I thought becuz the tracks go downhill that that is why we rolled over but when i looked at the tracks i noticed how far we were and how the hill goes up and then once u go over the tracks it goes down. For those of u who say that its becuz its a hill and thats why ur car moves look again before making ur comment. Oh and everytime we checked there were handprints. We do have pictures of everytime we went over the tracks and so do other people who were there. I suggest that if u don’t believe but have not been there then u should go and don’t believe everything u see on TV. If you haven’t been there and want to talk mess then until u have gone and experienced the little ride u take, please keep ur comments to urself. Oh, before we leave, one more thing, before u send ur comment, read it and make sure u spelled everything correctly!!! Don’t talk mess until you’ve actually seen this. Thank you and have a nice day!

TAMI BENSLIMANE says:

September 25, 2006, 1:21 pm

THE WAY I HEARD IT WAS THAT THE BUS RAN OUT OF GAS AND IT GOT STUCK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TRACK. DIDN’T THEY HEAR THE TRAIN COMING? I MEAN IT COULDN’T HAVE COME OUT OF NOWHERE, COULD IT?

guest says:

September 26, 2006, 12:29 pm

Anthony,
Can we see your video? I’m sorry if this question was already asked – there are way too many comments to read them all. This is very interesting. I’ve never seen a ghost, but I’d like to believe there really are ghosts and spirits out there watching and trying to communicate with us, in their own way. I’m sure I’ll never make it to those track so watching the video would be great! Thanks!
Joy

jaime says:

September 26, 2006, 1:43 pm

the story is fake its the gravity house in wonder land the seams striaght but it has a gravity pull that makes the car roll.now the baby powder issue when u first apply it it wont show but when the car moves th exsesive powder fall and shows your palm or finger tips.next time u try the powder step on the bumper and the exssevie powder will fall and u will see finger prints.sorry gohst lovers its not true.

Mia says:

September 28, 2006, 6:23 pm

hey my name is mia and i live in michgan, but when visting my family in san antonio, My cousins and i thaught it would be cool just to test out the truth….well i DIDN’T BELIVE IN GHOST,UNTIL that day, if your like me who not know the truth,then i would suggest not to go, i cryed and till this day i will not go back,,nor will i let my little cousin go.but we did put the baby powder on the back window,and parked the car in the railroad track,then put the keys on the dash board. then a light showed up….. it was only a car!!!! nothing happen unitl a 1/2 hour later, thats when things got wierd. I sat in the front seat of the car. then i heard a knock at the window thinking it was my cousin, when we ALL heard little vocies then hand prints on the window, i cryed because they were trying to save us!! they pushed the car out the way of the railroad track. i swear I’LL NEVER FOR GET IT!!!!!

Janet says:

September 29, 2006, 4:44 pm

I seriously think this is true cuz i’ve been there before

Manuel Sifuentes says:

September 29, 2006, 6:46 pm

Yeah this is true..because I went there last time I was in San Antonio. It was me, my dad, my cousin, and my uncle. We went and tried it but we didnt put baby powder on the car because it was really foggy so we didnt have to.When we went there we parked it over the tracks and put the car in neutral. All of a sudden we just started moving, and when we stopped moving we hopped out of the car and you could see nothing but little handprints all on the side of the car and the back.

misty says:

September 29, 2006, 10:21 pm

do you have to do it on holloween night? oh well we’re going to go tommorow soooo, I will know if it’s true are not! i’ll post a comment sunday and tell you what happened!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ♥

jerry wilison says:

September 30, 2006, 2:54 pm

I Am Not JokInG………… me and my friends went and walk through this abandon house saposabley haunted by to guys that owned prostitutes. We were walking through and this 30 year old guy was naked doing the mocreina. If u dont beilive me then go to the house. We dont no if it was a ghost or some bumb but where to scared to go back in that house…..

crystal says:

October 1, 2006, 11:08 pm

helllloooo the tracks are not in the north side….they are in the southside of san antonio…mission road……and yes ive been there done that also and i dont believe it….because your car has to be in neutral …hello any car will move if u have it in neutral….we stopped our car completely and it didnt move at all….if it is a super natural thing then i would think they could move your car even if it wasnt on neutral!!!!!!!!

Nay Nay says:

October 5, 2006, 1:41 pm

It’s true I’ve experienced it myself!!! I didn’t get to put baby powder but I did get pushed across the tracks. My condolences to the little kids and their parents!!
RJV #34
TX.

Cindy says:

October 6, 2006, 5:47 pm

I ahve been there about 2 years ago and I believe the story. We didnt put an powder on the car but it made me a belieer.

Alexis and danielle says:

October 6, 2006, 9:55 pm

that is true very true because we did the samething

Douglas Lovin says:

October 7, 2006, 8:41 am

Back in October of 2005 I went to San Antonio to visit my friend John. He took me to the tracks. There were about 5 other cars there testing the tracks.

We did not do any baby powder but we did test the rolling.

We turned the car off and put the engine in nutr. The car started to roll. It was not a gradual roll. It was sorta like a push.

My friend John was scared to push the brakes but then the cars infront of us were stopping on the tracks and stuff so he was forced to stop. As soon as he let off the brakes were were instantly pushed forward.

Although it clearly looks uphill people claim to have tested it and it is slightly downhill.

There is a slight incline from the road to the track and there are ruts in the track that would cause you to stop or get stuck.

I believe something other than gravity is pushing you, do I believe the bus story.. can’t say.

It needs to be tested with other rolling objects. A motorcycle, bicycle, try a ball like a basketball… put the car facing away from the tracks, does it still roll backwards?

Kerina says:

October 8, 2006, 4:38 pm

i lived here my whole life and i’ve been there.i don’t think its true i know its true. i went there last halloween with my friends and i.we put baby powder on the truck and we saw handprints on the truck.so this has to be true.

Ashly says:

October 8, 2006, 5:05 pm

Who knows if it is actually true. I have lived in Texas my entire life and have heard the story many different times and many different versions. I have also seen shows on it. One show in particular says the road is actually slant down and that’s what causes the car to roll. The finger prints reported seen are probably the finger prints of the car owner cause our skin oils would leave a resude behind that could show up. But I am believer in the spirit world but this particular story I don’t know if it is true. I have never personal seen it even though I have been the San Antonio so I can’t say either way.

jake says:

October 9, 2006, 2:43 am

isnt there an old abandoned insane asylum thats supposedly haunted nearby?

GABETHEBEANERBABE says:

October 9, 2006, 2:52 pm

I cant believe everyone thinks they are actually being pushed!!!! Its clearly on a downhill slope and its a SLOPE YOU CAN SEE CLEARLY!!! Now I would be extremely impressed and freaked out if you could go to the other side of the crossing and put your car in neutral and be pushed cause thats a serious up hill slope on the other side. I did try it on the other side and my car almost went into the ditch AWAY FROM THE TRACKS because of the slope.Those dang kids almost let my car roll into the ditch!!!!!!! I guess it is kinda fun to take narrow minded folks their that will believe in something as retarded as that.

domino says:

October 9, 2006, 3:17 pm

well this is a true story, i went with my family close to midnight at night since i knew about this ever since i was a kid and pretty much we put baby powder all over the trunk and we all parked on the track and we pretty much stay quiet and all the suddenly i gotten lightheaded and my cousin said she seen something going by and we all felt a push and then once we got to the other side i felt fine… we look and there were small and big hands print hey i got proof i took pictures of it, it just an interesting experience and i do believe in those things…. so believe it

T says:

October 12, 2006, 2:56 pm

none of this is true there are no records of children being killed there. As far as the car moving when in neutral, it’s all some kind of gravity. I hang out at the softball field that is next to these tracks every friday and I haven’t seen any ghosts of children yet.

roadkill says:

October 13, 2006, 12:06 pm

Sadly this is a total fake. There has never been a train wreck involving a bus-load of children at this intersection. Texas DPS and local police records have been searched – no wreck, no kids, nada to support this tale. It is a total urban legend.

Also the road goes DOWN hill – it’s an optical illusion making it seem that it is going uphill.

Sylvia says:

October 13, 2006, 11:06 pm

I have been there with my friends and it is f**kin crazy. I put my car in nutral and then it started moving. We had got out of the car and we saw the hand prints. I’ve been there once and i gonna be there on halloween

brianna says:

October 14, 2006, 4:06 pm

I really want to do this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

carina says:

October 15, 2006, 3:24 am

i have heard this story before and just by reading it ,it gives me chills on my spin

always carina rodriguez

Ricky says:

October 15, 2006, 5:30 pm

the story sucked and i hated it bescause i don’t believe in scary stories only chubacabra
and his dog.

kristen says:

October 16, 2006, 12:02 pm

i’ve heard of this and have been there.. i didnt personal drive over the railroad tracks and stop but a cousin of mine did and when they got home thier van had hand prints all on the back windows. pretty freaky if you ask me but i totally beilive in stuff like this. i think its so interesting!

Jobo says:

October 16, 2006, 6:35 pm

I seen where out the baby powder on the car and hand and feets prints appeared right there on the trunk of the car. It was pushed real far. I seen it on TV so I know it is true – yes sir – sho did – for true – uhhhhhh huh – mmmmmm huh, I like mustard on my fried tatars.

ANDREA says:

October 17, 2006, 1:53 pm

WHERE IS THIS AT? I’D LOVE TO GO.

Stephanie says:

October 18, 2006, 1:37 pm

Is that place really in San Antonio? Because we have that same story told over here in El Paso, TX. I haven’t been there but my friends have told me that stories about when they went. it’s also supposedly proven that it’s gavity. If you put a basket ball there, then it will roll up the hill.

Texas angel says:

October 21, 2006, 12:56 am

who cares if it’s real or not. It’s fun to think about this stuff happening. I have seen the shows about it on discovery, history and travel channels. Who knows what actually happens there unless you’ve tried it. But come on only one person found a way to debunk it. Let’s call Taps see what they can do.

Jobo says:

October 21, 2006, 3:31 am

It do afraids me to thank about such haints and thangs. Ah can’t sleep nairy a wink if my mind do wander on such appereeshuns.

Besides it be two late to play Taps. De funereels iz over and dem folks iz haints now. Better leave de buggle playin’ up to Gabrieel. Dem haints might git right sideways at ye.

I done sceerd my own self now……:-o

Shorty says:

October 21, 2006, 4:04 am

I have also never been there but have heard the story a million times as a child. My father is a firm believer of it, says he went there when he was a teen. He swears upon it being true, I am still trying to get there to experience it for myself. But I do believe that it exist.

angel says:

October 25, 2006, 11:22 am

well i went their with some friends in a 15 passenger van and it was full, so we parked on the other side of the tracks and it was on an upward slant so when we did it the first time we got spooked so we did it again but this time we sat on the bumper to see if you could feel anything sure enough you could feel some sort of preasure on your body as the van is being pushed over the tracks, now that is some crazy place, but i think we should let the kids rest, i think they are tired and cant leave until people stop bothering them

FRANK SALAZAR says:

October 25, 2006, 5:03 pm

I USED TO BE A NON BELEIVER TILL I WENT OUT TO THE TRACKS AFTER PARTYING DOWNTOWN AT THE FIESTA’S THEY HAVE EVERY YEAR THERE ,ANYWAY MY BROTHER IN LAW TOOK ME TO THE TRACKS AND SURE ENOUGH WE TURNED THE CAR OFFAND PUT THECAR IN NEUTREL AND RELEASED THE BRAKE AND THE CAR STARTED ROLLING FORWARD UP AND PAST THE RAILROAD TRACKS WE DID IT A COUPLE OF TIMES FORWARD AND BACKWARDS AND THEY WOULD PUSH US UP AND OVER EVERYTIME,EVER SINCE THAT FIRST TIME I HAVE TAKEN OTHER FRIENDS THAT DONT BELEIVE AND THEY ALSO NOW BELEIVE,ALSO IF YOU DRIVE UP THE HILL PAST THE RAILROAD TRACKS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ROAD THERE IS A NEIGBORHOOD WHERE AL THE STREETS ARE NAMED AFTER THE KID THAT WERE KILLED.AND FERTHER UP THE ROAD IS AN OLD SPANISH MISSION.

Mary says:

October 26, 2006, 2:51 pm

I Love this story! It makes me want to go to the place and do the things that were said.

Pinky says:

October 26, 2006, 3:51 pm

I live and San Antonio and the story may sound true but it isn’t. First their would have been reports of the accident, there is no file claiming an accident on the tracks. Second the streets around the train tracks were not named after the kids who were killed. They were named after the children of the workers who constructed the area. When itcomes to putting flour or powder on your car and seeing hand prints, well guess again, they oil from your hands are left behind and usually will not come off without a good scrub. I guess for those who still believe in it, will have a different story tell. I should say that i still believe in ghost.

Mochizzle says:

October 27, 2006, 3:18 pm

i had sex on the tracks! with a dead chick.. GET OVER IT PEOPLE!

Kathy says:

October 28, 2006, 1:18 pm

I have heard this story and even experienced the tracks. I have used powder on the back of my car and also saw the fingerprints that appeared.
If you really want to know more about this story.. try reading up on it at
http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa031201a.htm

It states all about the accident.

angel estrada says:

October 28, 2006, 4:42 pm

i know the bus diver at the time it happed it is not ture

Ruby Garza says:

October 29, 2006, 5:02 pm

I have heard of the story of the kids my husband went to san antonio. For a weekend with his friends he said that it is true they put the car on neutral and put poweder. In the back of the car and sure in of the car started moving and there were little hand prints in the back of the car.

karli says:

October 29, 2006, 9:12 pm

this is true ive done it and it personally scared the hell out of me this is not a myth

jeffery says:

October 30, 2006, 1:59 pm

I think that it was wrong for the bus driver to make the little kids get out of the bus and push it because they are to little and not enough strength to push the bus.

Garnet says:

October 30, 2006, 2:12 pm

It’s funny, I lived in San Antonio for two and half years in the early 90’s and never heard that story. When I lived in Corpus Christi, I heard about the bus full of kids that got hit by a train and will push a car in neutral over the tracks. Apparently, it happened there too. I also heard the story in Odem, TX. Seems like if something like this was true, hundreds (if not thousands) of people would be visiting these sites every year. Also seems like there would be some kind of record about it. If someone had actual footage of the “ghostly little kids”, wouldn’t it have made it onto the news?
I have had a few paranormal experiences myself and initially thought this was true (15 years ago) but have come to realize that it’s a hoax. To those who claim it’s true, I have a few questions.
A – why would the kids push your car off the tracks over and over again, never realizing your doubting them?
B – why is is that the story is always told on tracks that are on a hill/incline, never a flat area?
C – have you heard the phrases, “mass hysteria”? urban legend? ghost story?

Marcia says:

October 30, 2006, 4:11 pm

We live in San Antonio and have gone to “the tracks” several times. A fun place to bring the sceptic! First you drive up and over the track go down the road and turn around to face the tracks. Just as everyone has said you do the powder, put your car in neutral and wait. “Yes” your car or in our case a Tahoe SUV, will begin to roll along the road and over the tracks. Unfortunately, we have never seen the hand prints! Some say the reason for the rolling is an optical illusion, the the road actually runs down hill toward the tracks, must be a very level grade. BUT I will tell you this, if you get out of your car and place a ball on the road, it does not roll, stays were you placed it! Real or not, we have been there and the car WILL roll down the road and over the tracks.

Frank Villanueva says:

October 31, 2006, 8:55 pm

I have not been but i heard if you go there with a buzz you can see the kids and the train lights will look like it is coming aftetr you.

Frank Villanueva says:

October 31, 2006, 8:58 pm

I heard that if frank goes there with rony they will hook up tonight. and franks friends will watch them hook up and sonia rony’s friend

Justine says:

November 1, 2006, 7:32 pm

Well I have heard a lot of different stories about the rail road haunting I heard that there was this bus and that it got stuck on the rail road track and the bus would not move by the time they tried to move it the train hit it and all the lil children died and if you go and sit on the rail road track and put baby powder on the back of your car then put it into neutral the lil children spirits will push you over the rail road to saftey and all the streets around that area are named after the lil children that died that was the story I heard when I lived down in San Antonio

liz says:

November 3, 2006, 7:36 pm

I was there last year with my sister and nephew. We did a little research on the site before going. Apparently there is no documented information about there ever being a school bus accident there. Nothing in the newspapers and nothing in the police reports. Also, one of the articles we read said that although the ground appears level it actually isn’t which is why the car will roll when put into neutral. Our car did roll but there were no fingerprints on the powdered bumpers whatsoever. Given the fact that an accident of the magnitude which supposedly happened there would have lots of publicity – and there is none to be found – I’m inclined to believe it’s a hoax. Sorry folks.

bob says:

November 4, 2006, 8:23 pm

Hi my name is Bob Jacobs and I recently had an encounter with this railroad crossing. It was the day before Halloween and me and my wife happened to be in San Antonio for a short vacation. Well we had some people in our hotel that were talking about this story and we overheard them and asked for directions to the site. It took me a while to find it and I got lost in a rundown part of town but I finally found it.By now it was 2:15AM and noone was around. We had baby powder and put it on the back of the trunk. I got in the car and put it into neutral. We waited and waited.It was kinda scary and very calm and quiet. Then all of a sudden it happened.
My wife screamed at the top of her lungs. There was a fat little chubby mexican boy at the passenger window. He had a stripped shirt on and his face was pale white. His eyes were solid black and as soon as we saw him he disappeared and it scared the hell out of us. I know this sounds fake but i guarantee you it is real. We didnt even stick around to wait to be pushed over the tracks.I started the car and got out of there as fast as possible.There is something bad there and I will never return to that place.

Samantha says:

November 8, 2006, 4:12 pm

i want to do this some one please tell me where it is…. email me at thanx…

minerva says:

November 9, 2006, 1:14 pm

I LIVE IN SAN ANTONIO , AND YES THIS IS FOR REAL , ACTUALLY IT GIVES ME THE CREEPS BECAUSE I’M WONDERING IF THEY’RE PUSHING YOU TO GET OUT OF THE TRACKS BECAUSE THE TRAIN IS COMEING TO SAVE YOU , OR THEY’RE PUSHING YOU TOWARDS THE TRAIN SO THE TRAIN CAN GET YOU , IT IS A MYSTERY , ON MY CAR I PUT BABYPOWDER AND COULD CLEARLY SEE AN ADULT HAND PRINTED , I WOULD BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE THE BUSDRIVERS HAND , AND A COUPLE OF SMALL HANDS ALSO , SO AS OF THAT EXPERIENCE I NEVER GO BACK , TO ME I JUST LET THEM TRY TO REST IN PEACE .

Victoria Corona says:

November 9, 2006, 4:52 pm

i have heard this story before i have been to that place on the day it was said to have happened and we did the baby powder thing but it was at night and my friend thought it was animal prints like a small raccoon i told him he was crazy

Katy says:

November 24, 2006, 8:53 pm

Hey I hope to go there sometime but i would not go there alone. if i took anybody it would be my dad considering he is in love with this stuff well so am i but my eyes get watery at the thought of something scary but i am not terrified. well got to go.

Alex says:

November 25, 2006, 3:56 pm

Well I dont know about you all ******* but I think its all true !!!

James says:

December 2, 2006, 9:45 am

I always wanted to try this one.

Kathy says:

December 4, 2006, 8:49 pm

o my god! i totally beleive it but i’ve read that it never happened. so well i don’t know, but i kinda wanna go there and see. i read that the road is tilted and the car will get enough momentum to roll over the tracks by itself and that the baby powder will pick up finger prints from when you touched your bumper before. so… thats what i’m saying i don’t know if it’s true but that’s what i’ve read so there you go.

zolaente says:

December 8, 2006, 2:29 am

There are places that look as if you are going up a hill by the way the land is set but, in fact you could be going down a hill. We had one in Missouri we used to put the car at the bottom of the hill and it would go backwards up the hill when it was even shut off. It was called gravity hill since they thought it was really a mess up in the gravity there. Of course it was just the optical illusion that you were going up the hill when in fact you were going down hill.
See what I mean. Anyway, I was doing a section on ghost webcams and tales ect on my site in the past. I have found so far not much you hear it true. Kind of like the news and papers in the usa *Most Is BS* but, maybe one day I will go with logic to check it out. ZolaEnterprises.com has even tried the evps but, found that to be nothing possible so far at all.

Chris says:

December 16, 2006, 6:54 pm

I kno im not the only blackperson up in here, who would want to get on some dam railroad tracks to see if some kids gonna push yo car while u in it, if it was me i would tell somebody to do it while im across the street somwhere watchin seein if its gonna happend

cris says:

December 25, 2006, 11:32 pm

Hey Cris! your smart because you thought what i thought etsept i would get a camcorder and tape it then put it on TV! + i would write a book about it!

Debra Age 11

GABRIEL says:

December 28, 2006, 10:23 pm

THIS IS A TRUE FACT IVE DONE IT AND I WAS YEL;LING ALL THE WAY HOME.

Janice says:

December 30, 2006, 12:10 am

I have been to those tracks and I decided to put some powder on the back of the car(it did take time to convince my mom though) and I saw fingerprints!! they were of little kids. but the legend of how it started is different, it was just that there were a bunch of kids in the bus and the train ran over them. well this story is definitely true.

Cynthia says:

December 30, 2006, 2:53 am

I sent my boyfriend there with his family. He said an old Indian drove past them as they put the car in neutral and rolled over the tracks. They thought something was odd, so they took a bottle of water and poured it on the ground. The water went over the tracks. The old Indian came back and laughed at them. He said, “we call it gravity!” It is an illusion that the road is level. It is actually on a slant and the gravity causes the cars to roll across the tracks. No one has ever been able to find official records that ever prove a school bus went over the tracks. Nowadays it is a dangerous place to go, especially at night, but not because of ghosts, but rather because of violence.

Janice says:

December 30, 2006, 11:27 am

Are u sure that that’s true Cynthia? well everybody does seem 2 b sayin’ that the story about the ghosts r real, but still how can we know for sure? I just do not know wut 2 believe. And u said an INDIAN told them that? wow that’s just wierd. and u r right about it being dangerous there, cuz 1 time my friend told me a story about her brother’s friend goin’ there late at night 2 c if the story was true, but the next mornin’ he were nowhere 2 b seen. everybody guessed it had sumthin’ 2 do w/ him goin’ 2 the tracks. but when they went 2 go look for him they found nothin’ more than his lighter he always carries in his pocket!! wierd right? well know I’m just don’t know wut 2 believe.

shyanne says:

January 13, 2007, 11:42 am

my mother said she is going to take me to this place and make me put the powder on the bumper. i got really scared. my opinion is that it may be true but how can 1st and 2nd graders push a buig big big big bus?? tell me that.!!

shyanne says:

January 13, 2007, 11:44 am

My mother said she was going to take me to the racks and make me put the powder on the bunmper and i flipped out. My thought is that this could be true but how could 1st and 2nd graders pust a huge mongo bus across a railroad track?? Tell me that!.

Jossie says:

January 15, 2007, 8:54 pm

your dumb how are you going 2just invite anybody you know that thier are killers out their are you crazy!!!

JENI says:

January 19, 2007, 1:33 pm

WHAT SET OF TRACKS IS IT ON?

Amber says:

February 2, 2007, 6:50 pm

Hey everyone. heres my experience

Well, i was six years old and my mom and my aunt were gonna go so i decided i would too. (who wants to stay with their uncle and guy cousins?) But anyway we went but didn’t have babypower which i’m kinda glad of. But we went and put our full size SUV on the tracks, put it in neutral, and waited. i was in the back and looked out the window and saw a herd of little kids outside pushing us WHILE we were moving. So i curled into a ball and was screaming and crying. lol. it was kool though. I believe 100%.

Darknight says:

February 7, 2007, 4:17 pm

I dont be live in this ghost story.Cuz when the police found hand print on the back of the bus. It could have been someone elses and print not the children. And when you put your car in N and you supposed to go forward. Well i tried it and it doesnt work. Thats fails or it could be true.

MIRANDA, JOEY RAMIREZ says:

February 10, 2007, 1:45 am

MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE BEEN THERE BEFORE AND SEEN THE LITTLE HAND PRINTS. THIS LAST TIME WE WENT IT WAS AROUND 12:30 AM IT WAS REALLY DARK NO LIGHTS ANY WERE AFTER THE LITTLE KIDS PUSHED US OVER THE TRACKS WE GOT OFF THE CAR TO SEE THE HAND PRINTS. I FELT SOMETHING RUB AGAINST ME AND AS I LOOKED TO SEE WHAT IT WAS IT LOOKED LIKE SOMETHING HAD RAN IN TO THE WOODS. WHEN I TOLD MY HUSBAND HE THOUGHT I WAS TRYING TO FREAK HIM OUT. BUT THEN A COUPLE OF SECONDS LATER WE CAN HEAR THE LITTLE KIDS PLAYING IN THE WOODS.

Blair says:

February 12, 2007, 4:35 am

Ok, I’ve only been on this site a little while, and this is the second story I’ve read that has powder in it.

nocturne_wolves says:

February 14, 2007, 8:48 pm

yeah i’ve heard of this a long time ago they showed it on tv and it’s true if u don’t beleave it ur an loser.

Jon says:

February 19, 2007, 9:56 am

The wreck never happened, people have done plenty of research, and there was never a Bus-Train accident in this location. Added to the fact that the tracks are located on a slope, its obvious to see how your car will be “pushed” over the hill. A complete waste of time to go see, too many people out there all the time, and the cops will hassle you when the drive by (which they do quite frequently).

steven sanchez says:

February 19, 2007, 6:49 pm

I was born and raised in San Antonio and I’ve been to the railroad tracks hundreds of times. It’s best to wash you’r car before you visit the tracks,to get rid of you’r hand prints.when I first went it scared the snot out of me. And it’s true, after you go over the tracks sure enough there are childrens hands on the back of you car. And if you want another scary sight to see, visit the espada park at night, supposedly one night was either stabed or shot to death and wraped and duct taped into garbage bags. And their bodies were found the next morning.

steven sanchez says:

February 19, 2007, 7:10 pm

Don’t listen to those pansy’s up there. Their just some mexican hate’n morons,the story is true. Hey jon also did another study, and concluded that in fact you’r little slope is acually just an illusion. Sorry idiot.

STFU says:

February 21, 2007, 6:58 pm

this is so fake all u people that believe it can go and shove it up ur *** !!!

JOHN says:

February 25, 2007, 6:39 pm

I HAVE LIVE IN SAN ANTONIO ALL MY LIFE..30 YRS AND GROW UP IN THE AREA. I WORK FOR THE LOCAL SHERIFF DEPT. I HAVE WROTE OUT TICKETS THERE ALOT. SO ONE NIGHT OUT ON PATROL I WANTED TO CHECK IT OUT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE YOU WILL SEE IT ON A DECLINE SO YOUR CAR WILL MOVE DOWN TO THE TRACKS. AND I HAVE LOOK FOR THE ACCIDENT IN THE LOCATE ARCIVE, CANT FIND ANYTHING ABOUT IT, BUT WHAT I DID FINE WAS THE TRACK WERE PUT IN PLACE IN THE JULY OF 1952. YOU CAN FIND THE INFO IN THE RAILROAD ARCIVE. I HAVE HEARD THE ACCIDENT HAPPEN IN THE 20,30,OR 40. IF IT HAPPEN THEN IT HAPPEN WHEN THE TRACK WERENT THERE.

cameo says:

February 25, 2007, 11:39 pm

I think its cool how the little kids leave their finger prints on the bumper if you put baby powder. Spooky isnt it.

Paula says:

February 27, 2007, 1:34 pm

I just found out that this is false, there was no such bus accident, and the streets around the area were not named for the children in the make believe bus accident, but are named after the developers grandchildren. You can read more about this false story on SNOOPS.COM.

miguel says:

March 4, 2007, 11:47 pm

i have been there i live down the steet from it , i us to scair people at nite i would hide in the woods and wait for anyone to stop on the track ,and when they would turn there care off i would run out the wood at your care had a mask on my head, people would get scared and leave fast all scared,,ha ha ha

Pam says:

March 6, 2007, 12:25 pm

It’s been years ago now, but my sister and I visited the tracks one night ourselves. We’d seen the story covered on Unsolved Mysteries, and had been curious, but it wasn’t until one of the local San Antonio news stations had done a story, that we decided we wanted to see if it was true. We actually called the TV station to get directions to the tracks. It is in south San Antonio – not the best neighborhood, but the experience is worth it. The hill actually is at a slight incline. Yeah, we did the baby powder test, too .. and we saw fingerprints .. but I hadn’t considered the “oil from your fingers” theory until now – who knows. We left the car running, put it in neutral, and we were pushed up and over the tracks. After you go over them, the road takes a right curve. There was a car behind us, trying it too .. so once we both made it around the curve, we got out and compared notes. We laughed so much that night — maybe a nervous laughter, not exactly knowing how to explain what had just happened, but it was fun. I hear there’s a long line of cars waiting to do this, each Halloween. What a great night to be “spooked”, but I would think if you really want to try this for yourself, to pick an average night in April or something ..lol. I’m sure any SA news station would be happy to direct you there, as they did for us. Its been so many years ago now, and we only went once – I cant remember how to get there myself anymore. I’d say open your minds. There are a lot of things in life that can’t be explained. Most of all, just have fun with it!

Priscilla says:

March 13, 2007, 1:44 am

I was born and raised in san antonio. i live only 15 minutes from these haunted tracks. ive been there too many times, and every time is a trip. They are located on a small street just off of S.W. MILITARY DR. in the south side.If you ask anyone in that area they will know what you are talking bout. I’ve done the powder test, and no, ive never seen fingerprints. ive heard the story, kids in a school are having car trouble, while sitting in the bus, they are hit by a train. THERE ARE RUMORS THAT THIS IS ALL GRAVITY, BUT I DONT THINK THAT’S TRUE. PEOPLE HAVE TESTED THIS WITH A BASKETBALL.WHEN SET DOWN AND EVEN PUSHED, IT DOESNT ROLL! I experienced it myself many times. Although i havent seen prints, the CAR DOES MOVE. We have parked at the end of the street,(yards away from the tracks), waited there for a couple minutes, car turned off, and on neutral, then out of nowhere it begins to move toward and over the tracks!! IVE EVEN HEARD A MYTH THAT THE CHILDREN ARENT TRYING TO GET YOU AWAY FROM THE TRACKS BUT TO THEM.Dont know it its true, but **** its freaky…

jessica says:

March 13, 2007, 10:30 pm

For ppl who wanted directions go 410 south, exit southton road take a left on southton. take a right on shane rd and keep going u will see the tracks. go and see for urself. ive been there a few times and there were a few other cars each time.

ivy says:

March 18, 2007, 6:10 pm

i have been there and put baby powder on the back of my car and you can see hand prints. they did push my car over the tracks it is actually really cool i suggest trying it

Shorty Yanez says:

March 20, 2007, 12:53 pm

sooo ture but the story I herd was a little differnt. ever since that accident there have never been one since. I’m now living in Wisconsin but hope to go back to TX to visit the site.

Esther says:

March 25, 2007, 11:36 am

This story has been verified as not being a true event. A bus accident never occurred at the sight. This magnetic phenomena also happens in other states as well.

veronica says:

March 27, 2007, 4:48 pm

Thats crazy I know that if I saw that I would run. Just 2 get away and tell my friend’s what had just happened. But who would be that dumb 2 do something like that.

alis says:

March 28, 2007, 7:45 pm

dam second graders better not touch my car

alis says:

March 28, 2007, 7:51 pm

i was there my friend said dam second graders touched my car now i’m going to kick there albino butt

ps have any one tried to drown a fish dumb a-s-s

yesenia school martinez says:

April 2, 2007, 4:55 pm

i don’t know iv never been there before but i would like to go because i got in charge of doing reseach of the railroad tracks in san antonio and this one came up and thats because im oly in the 6th grade yesenia

Jeremy says:

April 3, 2007, 2:25 pm

I have live in San Antonio all my life and it is true. Though the bus did break down and was hit by the train. The only thing I realy never got was Some people say the kids were in the bus and the bus driver went to get help and when he came back he found bodies and a bus ripped to shreds (and he was the one who remembered all the names for the streets. Another person said that he told the kids to push the bus. YEAH right like kids who are 5,6, & 7 years old push a bus thats as tall as them maybe taller. Any way the story is true and if you go to a San Antonio library you can find the archives there. LILLY your a LIAR

Valerie says:

June 13, 2007, 10:15 am

I am a born resident of San Antonio so yesterday, we went to the tracks with my grandma, brother,and mommy.We on that side of town so we decided to go to the tracks because my little brother didn’t belive us and I had never gone before. Before we could go we passed by the streets that are near there and you could see the names of the children. The names of the childern we saw were: Shane, Richey,Nacy Karol,and Cindy Sue. My grandma put the car on nutrual and u could see that she wasn’t driving. The car was moving slowly and when it was the point we reached the tracks the car like went really fast. When we were down you could see little hand prints on the bumper the back doors and the window!

Nikki says:

June 15, 2007, 3:43 pm

this is defi. true i have personally been to ghost track n it defi. works.

Stephanie says:

June 16, 2007, 3:47 pm

I’ve actually been here and nothing happened. It’s on a small hill and the whole reason your car moves is because of inertia. The most interesting thing that happened when I went was that quite a few cars showed up while I was there, all of them trying to do the same thing. Even a cab showed up to see if the “kids” would push the car! Quite entertaining.

Ch@se says:

June 18, 2007, 8:38 am

This will be a long one.. I am an avid “ghost investigator” I guess you could say. My friends told me about these supposedly haunted tracks in Bexar- just outside of San Antonio. Everyone has heard the story about the supposed bus crash- there is no actual record of it ever occurring- perhaps it never did, or maybe it was so long ago (when historical records weren’t kept all that well) *Irregardless, people line up by these tracks to get “pushed by ghosts”. Scientists have proved though the hill looks up-hill- there is actually a miniscule 2% decline.. which would explain why you go “over” the tracks-but it’s still a fascination to have a car rolling as swiftly as it does. – Then the handprints, people have also claimed the baby powder put on your car reveals your own handprints- much like dusting for finger prints, it settles in the oil marks left by you or friends. HOWEVER- I have personally done this, and we DID NOT put baby powder on the car, it was simply that dirty from driving from Houston to San Antonio. We inspected the car from all sides before going to the tracks ( no handprints, except for ours by the door handles from opening and closing them) After we rolled over the tracks, there were numerous handprints all over the car, that were TINY too small to be any of my friends or myself- they looked like someone under the age of 5 put them there, and we are all in our late teens and early twenties. Im not easy to “convince” when it comes to places- which is why I included the “scientific evidence”- but I cannot explain how almost 100 tiny kid-like prints ended up all over my car, when they werent there two seconds before- Hope this helps!

ll says:

June 18, 2007, 4:06 pm

According to the accounts posted on this page:

“I donâ??t live near the sight, but I have heard of a few of my friends trying it. They say that the car did move (it was a hummer) and there were tiny handprints on the back windshield.”

“After we rolled over the tracks, there were numerous handprints all over the car, that were TINY too small to be any of my friends or myself- they looked like someone under the age of 5 put them there, and we are all in our late teens and early twenties…”

These kids must be about 6′ tall with grossly undersized hands in order to be leaving tiny prints on the back windshield of a hummer?

tracy cruz says:

June 18, 2007, 4:40 pm

It’s all true.
I have been there several times and we always get pushed down, even when we would baby powder you can see lil hand prints. So i’ve been there and it’s Alllll true.

sincerly,

tracy c.
http://www.myspace.com/trasee 1

jon dick says:

June 19, 2007, 6:09 pm

i saw two ladys with huge tits havin sex and pushing my car after dey did deir thang… my brother got horney and moved the neutral to drive so dat explains why we went over da tracks and da handprints were actually cat prints…go check it out ull love it

Brenda says:

June 21, 2007, 11:23 pm

of course i no about the story cauze i live in sanantonio and ive been theire whith my dad and my step-mom it was scarry the bumper was all dustie and we whent on the tracks then like 2 min later we whent 2 the store me and my dad got off and looked on the bumpper and theire was 4 little hand prints and i freaked out.

txleelee says:

June 25, 2007, 1:09 pm

My mother-in-law and I went this past November. Yes our car did roll over the tracks but it is going down hill not up. It would work one way but not the other. It only works if your facing downhill. I will admit that right at the tracks it seems to level out but then goes down hill again. I also have researched the accident and there is not any record of it and the street names are after the developers children not the children on the bus. As for the finger prints in the powder it is just your own. Try washing your car before you go and then put the powder on and see what happens. I am a believer in paranormal activity but not of this exact place.

Bernie Flores says:

June 26, 2007, 9:21 pm

Actually your car does not roll up hill,i only seems that way and the fingerprints are your own from all the times u opened the trunk, duh!!

TERESA says:

June 27, 2007, 4:53 pm

I HAVE LIVED IN SAN ANTONIO ALL MY LIFE. I AM 38 YEARS OLD AS WAS TOLD ABOUT THIS STORY WHEN I WAS YOUNGER. I TOOK MY HUSBAND TO THE TRACKS RECENTLY AND THERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE THERE ALSO, AS ONE CAR WAS GOING OVER HIS FRONT RIGHT TIRE BLEW OUT. NEXT CAR THAT WENT OVER HIT THE BOTTOM SOMEHOW AND ALL HIS CAR OIL STARTED TO SPILL OUT. WHEN IT WAS OUR TURN MY HUSBAND WAS LAUGHING SAYING ALL THIS WAS A JOKE WHEN I SET THE CAR AT THE STARTING POINT I FELT THIS COLD CHILL COME IN THE CAR WE STARTED TO MOVE JUST AS WE WERE GOING OVER THE TRACK MY LOCKS ON THE DOORS STARTED TO LOCK AND UNLOCK REALLY FAST THE STERING WHEELING GOT HARD TO TURN THE LIGHTS WENT DEAD THE WINDOWS WOULD NOT GO DOWN. THE BATTERY WAS DRAINED AND WE HAD TO ASK SOMEONE ELSE FOR A BOOST LET ME TELL U THAT MY HUSBAND WAS SCARED SHITLESS AND NEVER WANTS TO GO THERE AGAIN.

Eric says:

June 27, 2007, 10:19 pm

heheheheheheheh this is just… i dont know.i thought the kids were supposed to be driven home…. not driven to a horrible death. i hate walking on train tracks… so many have died on them and theyre spirits haunt them. thats why i iether drive, or RIDE the train… so if we crash into anybody, i can lauph MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Macee says:

June 28, 2007, 2:00 am

Well there is one in Anson Texas with the same story. And u do it the same way. We have done it before. We seen a little blue light in the field and heard little kids screaming help! We didnt think it was working so we tried to start the car and it just went click click and then we started rolling down the hill like we were getting pushed…so we had to call for help! SO IT DOES WORK!!!

Sue says:

July 2, 2007, 3:22 pm

Last year, My husband and I visited the area around midnight.. And i had my digital camera.. I was just flashin’ taking pictures. And when i review the pictures that nite.. There were many small glowin’ orbits all over the place. I was like so freaked out.. But, prior to my arrival at the location. I said a small prayer and snap the pictures. Now and then,I look at the pictures and think how sad it is that this poor lil baby souls are still wondering.. Someone needs to bless that ground so these poor little children can find their way to the other side. God Bless them..

Dee says:

July 4, 2007, 2:58 pm

Old story. Highly speculative. No one gives a location, story can’t be documented. As for the street names: Does anyone have a list of the children that was killed, so how do you know who the streets were named for. What streets? I don’t believe a word of this legend. Never did. AND, is anyone proofing these comments for “correct grammar, capitalization, and punctuation?” Evidently, not.

Lisa says:

July 12, 2007, 2:33 pm

When I was younger I went to the track with some friends, we did the whole nine yards. When your in the car you can feel a something surrounding the car helping it push it over. When we went over the tracks we inspected the back of the car and there were several little hand prints all over the trunk & the bumper of the car. As I was standing outside of the car I felt someone holding my hand, my friends were not near me. I was so freaked out by all this, All I could do was cry. My friends tried to put me back in the car but I was frozen. I couldn’t move. My best friend Elisha saw my hand was clutched, so she bent over as if she was speaking to a little child and said “We have to leave our mommy and daddy are looking for us. We will be back to play with you later.” That was when my hand was let go & I was able to move. Ever since then I never went back. That happened in 1992. I’m scarred the next time I go I won’t be able to leave.

Anna says:

July 16, 2007, 11:04 pm

I went this past weekend and i have a question were am i supposed to put the car on nuetrual I heard that it was on the tracks then i hear iwas supposed to be done about 50 feet away. can someone please tell me

Anna says:

July 16, 2007, 11:05 pm

I went this past weekend and i had no idea were to put my car in N is it on the tracks or before the tracks

Erica says:

July 17, 2007, 12:40 am

WOW! This sounds so scary! A few of my cousinds and I really enjoy going to haunted things.. I’d really like for directions so these tracks.. Thank You!

juan and marco says:

July 17, 2007, 2:00 am

we never believe that the kids was pushing you but
now i believe it becuase my family and i went today
and my dad put it on neutral and the kids pushed us
and now i believe it

yesenia says:

July 17, 2007, 11:24 am

yea its true, i saw that happend and a person from a tv show went there and put it on live.Yea there were alot of people present that moment to see it was true.thy puted baby powder n tha finger prints did showed up n pushed tha car.

iso says:

July 26, 2007, 1:16 pm

Where is this train track in San Antonio. My family & I are wanting to go there and try this to see what happens. If this is really true?

William garrett says:

July 30, 2007, 7:47 pm

OK here’s the real story and thanks to Robert for providing the information to uncover the truth about the story. The Accident was near Salt Lake City. the accident happened on december first 1938 near 10600 south and state street. There was a snowstorm and the busdriver knew the tracks were comming up so he stopped to check for the train, not knowing he stopped on the tracks. twenty three children and the bus driver died. That is the basis for the story. it did make headlines all over the country

Juan says:

July 30, 2007, 8:27 pm

Umm yeah i’ve been there before too and the only thing scary about this place is all the low life gang members hanging around the tracks at night.Don’t worry about a train hitting you, worry about someone taking your car. just some friendly advice.

amanda says:

July 31, 2007, 7:03 pm

I didn’t believe this story until I went there. I thought it was a bunch of bull so one night me and 3 of my guy friends went. We were already on the south side so we figured why not. We did this a couple of times. The first time i didn’t believe it. he had stopped right on the tracks and put the car in neutral so i thought it just rolled down. then he did it again but he was wayyy back behind the tracks. and again, we went up and over the tracks. after that time,I still didn’t believe him so I told him to turn the car off, not on neutral. so he turned off the car and gave me the keys, and needless to say, we went up and over the tracks. it was freaky… n we did it one last time the same way but instead of making it all the way over the tracks, we stopped right on top of the tracks. so my friend tried to turn the car on and it wouldnt turn on so they got out of the car n pushed it over the tracks then once we were over and away from the tracks, he tried turning the car on again and it turned on fine. it was weird. we didn’t go all out with the baby powder n all but idk, it was really weird.

ashley says:

August 6, 2007, 2:42 pm

i was there on a dare.I went with my boyfreind he put it in neutral and leand over to kiss me but as i was going to say i am not ready we felt something push us over the tracks and we were so scared he took off so fast.So there is a true story for all the people who dont belive in it.

SIIIKKKKEEE says:

August 9, 2007, 11:37 pm

u guys are gay…i tried it several times and it doesnt work!!! you all are paranoid and if ur scared dont be..this is dumb…get a life!!!

Mrs. Martinez says:

August 20, 2007, 2:38 pm

This story is true, I went there myself and let me tell ya, I put my car in N. and then like eveyone says the car started to move forward, but I got scared and pushed the breaks and my rear Window, and back seat windows shattered. At first I thought someone must have thrown something, but when I called San Antonio Police Dept out the said the children wanted to protect you and so they pushed and thats how the windows broke. I couldn’t beleive this that the cops would even tell me that. thats funny huh! Well if you don’t beleive me go out there and when they push you over hit the break and find out for your self!!!

~Always~
Mrs. Martinez

ROCKY says:

August 23, 2007, 2:55 pm

I THIK THAT THE STORY WAS TRUE BECAUES i WHENT THERE WITH MY BROTHERS ONCES AND WE EVEN CLEANED THE TRUNK OF THE CAR AND THE BUMPER,AND PUT SOME POWDER ONTHE BACK OF THE CAR AND PUT IT IN N AND WE STARED TO ROLL OVER THE HILL AND MY BROTHERS GOT SCARED BECAUSE HE DIDN’T WANT TO MESS UP HIS CAR BUT WHEN STEPED ON THE BRAKES THE BACK SEAT AND THE WINDOWS SHAKED AND THE BACK WINDOWBROCK WE TOUGHT THAT SOME ONE WAS PLAYING A JOKE ONE US .BUT WHEN WE GOT OUT OF THE CAR NO ONE WAS THER AND THE TRUNK AND THE BUMPER WAS COVERD IN HAND AND FINGER PRINTSWHER ONE IT.
BUT MY BROTHER GOT PISSED BECAUSE HE HAD JUST BOT THE CAR AND NOW I ‘M STUCK HER PUTING OVER TIME AT WORK SO I CAN PAY OF THE DAMAGES.

TO MY BROTHER YOU SUCK

jessica says:

August 26, 2007, 1:02 am

I think you guys are so full of it! i mean to believe in something like this!!!! Ive tried it and nothing happened it was just a waste of time!!!!!!!!!

Patty says:

September 5, 2007, 12:41 am

Go outside and put baby powder on the back of your car now and then go to bed. In the morning there will be hand prints and fingerprints, You touch your trunk and you leave the oils from your hands there. DO it and see.

Nikki Zachman says:

September 8, 2007, 12:53 am

I have been to the site. You have to turn you car completely off for it to work right. If you just coast you will roll down the hill you have to stop and put you car in park and turn off the engine just before the railroad. About 5 seconds after you turn your car off you will feel your car being pushed. If you put the powder on your car you will see about 5 sets of little fingers on your bumper.

ANGEL says:

September 10, 2007, 4:11 pm

I LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO THE TRACKZ, AND IVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING SCARY THERE

alexia says:

September 15, 2007, 10:10 pm

i live in el paso. its weird that the same story is in san antonio also. the real spot in el paso is about 5 mins from my house. ive been there b4; my car did move.

valerie says:

September 25, 2007, 10:18 am

i’ve personally been there! it is weird. imagine going at midnight its freaky! i’ve also heard that the streets in that area are named after the kids that died. There is also a cemetery near the area where people say the kids were burried. I suggest u go!

ally says:

September 28, 2007, 6:38 pm

I’m from S.A. I have been there many times..this place was even on tv before. You put your car in neutral or turn it off and you are pushed up the hill and completely over the tracks. & yes it is up a little hill. I didnt try the baby powder thing bc i figured my handprints would show up. But yall should go see it. It’s crazy!

Addie says:

September 30, 2007, 7:16 pm

I’ve been there. It’s so AWESOME!!
they pushed me over the tracks and i was like “WHOA!”
You shoud totally go.
It’s fantasmic.
:o)

Nita says:

October 3, 2007, 11:27 am

I have heard this story since I was a little girl, and I have several relatives that have been there, and say that the car does move and that you can see hand prints. I personally do want to try it one day to experience it for myself.

Nita says:

October 3, 2007, 11:29 am

I live in texas and have heard this story since I was a little girl. I have relatives that have experienced it, and someday I hope to experience it too.

cyma80 says:

October 3, 2007, 1:37 pm

I have heard about this many times and actually have thought of taking the trip to see for myself. What i want to know is it true? also, they have some videos on you tube about the tracks and some people who have taped themselves goin over the tracks. also, there was picture taken near the railroad tracks and it shows a picture of a child holding a teddy bear. I wonder if it is from the bus incident. also, is it true that all of the roads around the tracks were renamed to the names of the children who died in the crash?

Heather R. Allison says:

October 4, 2007, 5:45 pm

for those of you who say that you’ve seen a ghostly train… you’re a liar. and for those of you who claim to have turned your car completely off… you’re a liar. for those of you who have had fingerprints… they’re from you (previously due to the oils in your hands – ask and csi person). and for those of you who have “been pushed”… you rolled. the tracks appear to be going in an upward slope but in fact the tracks go downward about 80ft before the tracks and 65ft afterwards. if your car is in neutral, you will roll – not be pushed. this story with the bus happended in utah – not san antonio.
i have been there and i did roll. i compared the 2 handprints i found on my car to mine. i turned my car off right on top of the tracks 4 times and nothing happened. i sat there for 10 minutes twice and 3-5 minutes the other 2 times because there were cars coming.

check out this link:

http://groups.msn.com/CharlatanesyotrosMitos/carlitostrejo.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=4992&LastModified=4675558004128993358

Gregory says:

October 5, 2007, 3:10 pm

Ive been to that exact location and we did the very same thing and our car really did do that it was soooo freakky i cant belive it but when it happened i was kinda terrified haha it was a trip in other words

Stephanie says:

October 5, 2007, 10:49 pm

It works. I went there. I did it. The surrounding streets ARE named after the kids. Just look, there NAMES. It was surprising and a little unsettling, I don’t know what the hell was pushing us. Oh and if your car’s really dirty, handprints show up too. So you people who say that its oils, get your car freakin dirty, then tell me how the oils got on there.

Jen-Bar says:

October 9, 2007, 10:31 am

OMG!!!!!!!!!!i went there it was AWESOME

eli says:

October 10, 2007, 12:02 am

HI! I LIVE IN THE RIO GRANDE VALLEY AND HAVE HEARD ABOUT THIS FREAKY STORY IN SAN ANTONIO. BUT IF YOU WANNA HEAR SOMETHING VERY REAL AND SPOOKY HEAR THIS ONE OUT. ABOUT 18 OR 19 YRS AGO A BAD SCHOOL BUS/COCA COLA TRUCK ACCIDENT HAPPENED IN ALTON TX. THIS IS LOCATED IN THE LOWER RIO GRANDE VALLEY. THE SCHOOL BUS WAS STRUCKED BY THE COKE TRUCK AND WAS PUSHED INTO A CALICHE DITCH THAT HAD ENOUGH WATER TO CAUSE SOME OF THOSE STUDENTS TO DROWN. I PASSED BY THE ACCIDENT SIGHT THE NEXT DAY IT HAPPENED AND IT FELT VERY VERY FREAKY. BUT NOW SO MANY YEARS LATER THEY SAY THAT IF YOU GO BY THERE AT NIGHT YOU CAN HEAR ALL THESE CHILDREN CRYING FOR HELP. COME BY AND VISIT THE SIGHT I NEVER WENT BACK EVENTHOUGH I LIVE ABOUT 20 MINUTES FROM THERE. I DONT GO BACK CAUSE I DO BELIEVE THE PEOPLE THAT HAS HEARD THEM AND IM TOO SCARE TO GO. REMEMBER THIS PALCE IS LOCATED AT ALTON TX, NEAR MCALLEN TX I DONT KNOW THE NAME OF THE STREET BUT IF YOU COME AROUND HERE JUST ASK ANYBODY ABOUT IT AND THEY WILL DIRECT YOU TO THE SIGHT. AND IF YOU WANNA RESEARCH IT, IT HAPPENED ABOUT 18 OR 19 YRS AGO.

Mike says:

October 10, 2007, 3:39 pm

The pplace is just folklore. There never was a bus accident. The childrens names on the streets, are the names of the children of the builder of the homes around that area. The prints on your car come from your own oils off your skin. the reason some look tiny is where the oil is concentrated. Not all get picked up by the powder. And finally, a study was done where it showed that you actually move down, not up over the tracks. It may appear you go up, but you go down before you hit the tracks, and gravity takes you over

Monica says:

October 11, 2007, 4:43 am

This site is real. I went there a few times.
It is difficult to give directions to the site. I was shown where it was one time and after that I was just able to find it. I don’t know the directions or streets to get there, but I am just able to find it every time. I know that sounds crazy, but I always drive right to the site. It is in the South side of San Antonio off of Military Dr. in an area where there are a lot of historical markers.

The children do push you. One time when we were being pushed foward, we stepped on the brakes and we heard little heads bumping up against the back of the car. When we let off the breaks, they started to push us again. No one has mentioned it that I’ve seen, but passing the tracks up is slightly uphill. The childrens’ names are in the small neighborhood next to this street. There are many streets with names like Tommy St., Susy St., (I don’t know if these are the correct names, but that is the feel of it).

I don’t know if the story of the accident is true (children in bus accidents occur more often than we’d like to believe, not just in Utah), but it sure feels like the story is true when you go there.

This is the only experience I have ever had that feels like a real encounter w/the supernatural. There are many people that go and turn off their cars completely and everybody gets pushed forward and most people consistently get tiny fingerprints on their powdered bumpers. I think it is safe to say 99 out of 100 people who have visited the site recognize there is an oddity about this site. Keep in mind – noone makes money off this site and anybody from the public can visit it.

As for the site location, I can see why anybody would be suspicious with no directions to get there. Maybe the locations can be found on google maps with the area I gave and trying kid names as streets. I wish everybody who doubts this site could experience it. It is the one experience that has made me believe that maybe ghosts do exist.

Flor says:

October 11, 2007, 5:36 pm

Alright so I read enough of these comments. I heard the same story but the one I heard, the location is different. I was born and raised in San Diego, CA and a friend of mine told me that same story but that it happened in San Diego. He went to that site and he was going to take me there but I kinda punked out lol. So I dont believe this story to be true. I guess I have to experience it for myself.

Liz says:

October 12, 2007, 12:13 pm

I have known this story to be true my whole life. My parents lived in San Antonio during the 70’s while my dad was in the Air Force. They used to tell my siblings and me about how they went to the railroad tracks once, and were pushed to the other side. They never mentioned any baby powder, so I don’t know if there were hand prints on the back. I totally believe this story is true. It is kind of cool too. I want to try it sometime.

Erin says:

October 12, 2007, 8:33 pm

This story is true, to a degree. If you put your car in neutral, it will slowly start to move. It looks like it’s uphill, but it’s not. There’s a slight decline. It’s gravity, not ghosts, that make the car move. And baby powder on anything with fingerprints will show up. It’s science…but still pretty fun. :)

mandy says:

October 13, 2007, 1:15 am

Okay guys, listen up. This is not a ghost place. It is just an optical illusion. Just google gravity hills. Want to know where it is located? Okay- this is taken straight from wikipedia- San Antonio, Texas: At the corner of Villamain and Shane Roads. Travel west on Shane Road to a flat area before a railroad track just east of the right turn onto Villamain. Also, if you look on wiki you will find many places throughout the WORLD that has this same kind of place. They list exact locations for most, if not all of them. cheers!

Christina says:

October 13, 2007, 5:50 pm

I lived in San antonio my whole life, and I have been over those tracks like a million times, I’ve gone with the windows down, sitting on top of the car, with friends, family whoever. I have always been pushed over, but it’s never scary because a dozen other people always have the same idea. Also, not too long ago they built a baseball stadium right next door, and there was a carnival, totally ruined the dark, scare factor. I read on spoofs.com, a website that gives background too myths, & urban legends, that it’s all fake, and S.A. overly publicized a bus crash story that happened in Nevada; that actually makes more sense (because no one has any records of it happening). Still believe in ghosts though, just haven’t seen one.

Stephanie MG says:

October 13, 2007, 11:09 pm

When I was in High School my friend and I went to the tracks a week before holloween with flour to see if anything would happen, but nothing did. I now don’t believe in this story anymore because if it were ture there would be so record of the event and there isen’t any.

nance says:

October 15, 2007, 11:35 pm

Years ago, I went with my daughter and her college friends. Put the car in neutral…..it is the decline in the pavement that makes you go across….it is not ghosts…and we put the baby powder on and nothing. It deffinitely is an optical illusion to it….but it is in the slope! The college kids we the first to point that out. I agree!! NO ghosts!!!!

Cady says:

October 16, 2007, 4:38 am

Hate to burst your eerie nightmare.. Next time take a level with you. Though it appears to be an up hill grade, it is actually down hill . Leaving your car in neutral will allow the car to roll down the grade. No ghost, no spooks,….but the little hand prints on the back of the car were a bit weird. We put the powder on just for kicks. Little tiny hand prints all over. That freaked us out!

melaina says:

October 17, 2007, 12:39 pm

there is this box set of movies called “real hauntings” this story is on it , they showed the street signs an the tracks and put baby powder on the back bumper , everything happened that it says it does…

Eunice Perryman says:

October 17, 2007, 1:14 pm

yeah ive been to the rail roead tracks and we put the car in neutral the whole shebang nut thats no the point the point is how do we know the story isnt true every doubts and comes up with all kind of excuses for the movement of the car but no one knows how the story origionally started. and actually i have seen the street names of the “children” from the
“accident” anyway the whole point is its still fun to experience even if the story is true or not.

-souljia gurl touljia:)

Eunice Perryman says:

October 17, 2007, 1:16 pm

yeah ive been to the rail road tracks and we put the car in neutral the whole shebang but thats not the point, the point is how do we know the story isnt true everyone doubts the story and comes up with all kind of excuses for the movement of the car but no one knows how the story origionally started. and actually i have seen the street names of the “children” from the
“accident” anyway the whole point is, its still fun to experience even if the story is true or not.

-souljia gurl touljia:)

crystal says:

October 18, 2007, 1:54 pm

i heard it diffrently the way i heard it that the doors didnt want to open and only half of the kids got off….and that the street names by the site is the names of the little children

Adriann Q says:

October 18, 2007, 2:02 pm

I heard about this 1 and its true…i went to s.a. and my dads car did roll up and over the hill….it was so scary cuz i saw the fingerprints.i have never heard about the names around the site.

becky says:

October 18, 2007, 2:36 pm

What i think is that people do things to keep legends alive.Ever see “what’s new scooby-doo?”and i personally don’t believe in ghosts.so there.
and like somebody said:”if you go to hell you can’t come out,if you go to heaven you don’t wanna come out”
it’s true.
have a haunted haloween
BECKY

lollerpants says:

October 19, 2007, 3:05 pm

I’ve been there, nothing happened.

mariah says:

October 20, 2007, 8:16 pm

hey people iv been there
but i think it might be true
if yuo wash your car right before you go there put baby powder on it
because if you dont wash the oil from your hand before it will stay and the powder will sink through the oil
so wash your car and try i want to know if its true
iv been there and all but its a down hill and you just go down the LIL hill in nutral ive seen people do it with baby powder and they had pretty small finger prints all though i went last holloween
so if you go there its up to you to think if its true to you
TRY IT PLZZ
I DID
laterz
MOMO [MARIAH]

Stephanie says:

October 20, 2007, 11:31 pm

Ok I’ve been there before.
The story goes that the bus stopped over the tracks and the train hit the bus before the kids where able to get out.
Now before you go to “The Tracks” you must wash you vechicle or else the oils from you own hands will show up. park on top of the tracks and put it in nuetral. In order for the to work it must be quiet. You will slowy be pushed over the tracks because the kids don’t want you to meet the same sticky end.
It is in fact true that the street names are named after the kids who died. It is also said that you should never go over the tracks twice but I’ve done it at least 3 times.
Warning it’s ILLEGAL to do this but it is strictly inforced on holloween night. If easily scared I suggest don’t go because you can sometimes hear voices sometimes even saying your name.

Stephanie says:

October 20, 2007, 11:32 pm

i forgot to mention use baby powder to see the prints

Shirley says:

October 22, 2007, 3:28 pm

I don’t think anyone should make a judgement on this site unless they go and check it out for themselves. It truly is amazing. Drive up to the tracks and see what happens. I was skeptical…but over the tracks we went…and hearing the childrens voices, that was just creeeepy.

gmata says:

October 22, 2007, 11:33 pm

Well there’s a ball park right next to the ghost tracks and it really bugs me that they are sooo many cars in line blocking our way out of the park. I also grew up hearing the same bus accident story but sorry to bust your bubble IT’S NOT TRUE! There is no record of this event ever happening. But who knows what lies ahead becouse there are alot of young teens out of their cars all having a blast going from car to car with flash lights trying to see something,anything. You have to realize that this is a very dark area and you’ve got alot of traffic zooming by. These kids need to be careful. It’s ok to have fun but be safe and watch yourselves. It only takes a split second for an accident to happen so once again watch yourselves.

Kaysee says:

October 25, 2007, 7:26 pm

this story is also published in a book

Me says:

October 28, 2007, 9:41 am

I really have doubts about the validity of this story but I believe in giving everything the benefit of doubt. I’m going to make the trip out there. Many of you have been asking the same question I was asking: “Where is this place?”. From What I have learned, it is located a somewhat southeast of downtown San Antonio. Depending upon from what direction you are driving, my general directions are to get onto the southbound IH-37 toward Corpus Christi. Continue on the 37 to the 410 Loop. Get onto the 410 going west and shortly afterwards, take the South Presa Rd or Southtron Rd exit. Continue on the access road past Presa to Southtron Rd. At Southtron, turn left, going south and under the 410. Continue on Southtron Rd. to Shane Rd. Turn right on Shane Rd and it will bring you up the the railroad tracks. So there you have it boys and girls. Have fun.

Krystn says:

October 28, 2007, 6:58 pm

I went to these train tracks a few years ago with my mom, grandma and little sister. When we parked my mom’s 95 suburban on the tracks, it definately started to rock. Maybe the car was too heavy to move? Anyways, behind the tracks it’s even more freaky because all of the street names are named after little kids. Supposedly the little kids that died on that bus. It definately gave me and my family the chills!

Brett says:

October 28, 2007, 7:26 pm

I heard it was in St. Louis, MO and that the cars used flour, but who knows.

amber says:

October 28, 2007, 9:34 pm

I went there with my aunt and cousins and somethung def pushed us across the tracks.we made my uncle go across again cause we thought he was messing with us.we actually got push around another car cause we had so many kids in our van.it was def scary and we tried the baby powder thing but we didnt see any handprints.if you ever go to san antonia def check it out cuz something is there!

ghost says:

October 28, 2007, 9:54 pm

For all the out of towners and vistors, just copy the link and paste and hit enter for the ghost track location. not sure if this story is true, but your car does roll.

http://maps.yahoo.com/broadband#mvt=m&q1=Shane%20Rd%20,%20san%20antonio%20,tx&trf=0&lon=-98.434174&lat=29.318004&mag=3

HOLIDAY says:

October 30, 2007, 2:37 am

look im born and raised san anto, the story might not be true ,but i aint goin into that ,,,im just saying its just to have fun, who cares if its true or not, its as true as you make it be to the person your takin there.

Crystal says:

October 31, 2007, 12:10 am

THIS IS SO TRUE WHOEVER SAID IT’S NOT REAL HAS TO GO BACK AND RE-TRY IT BECAUSE IT HAS HAPPENED TO SO MANY PEOPLE FOR IT TO BE A FAKE.
-SPEAKING FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE

katarina says:

October 31, 2007, 7:32 pm

I leave in San Antonio and i can tell you from personal experiance that the railroad tracks are not that spooky at all when your there you sort of feel safe like no harm is going to come to you,well at least that is how my cusin mom dad and i felt

risa says:

November 3, 2007, 10:33 am

I like to say that I am from the Island of GUAM and I really like the stories I come across about your state. It’s so creepy and interesting at the same time. Where I’m from there not called GHOST, there called Taotaomonas. I can’t say that I believe in the spirts cause not that much stories are told here, but from what I watch on t.v and read from this site. I can say “I’m a Believer!” I especially love this one. I never left this island and if I ever do I would love to go to TEXAS and check this place out.

Starlicious says:

November 3, 2007, 3:30 pm

ok… ive sat here reading up on this thread for the past hour or so and see that there are so many skeptics out there, it seems that the skeptics are so close-minded to think that this phenomenon is not true and to ridicule it the way they have is just wrong. this weekend my friends and i are going for ourselves to witness this so called “fake story, or lie” or whatever else skeptics like to call it. i have believed this my whole life, im from houston and actually have been there when i was younger but dont remember much of it.. i find it sad that people can judge without even trying to experience it themselves.

Jen says:

November 3, 2007, 4:23 pm

The story has been debunked, get a clue, on tv or not it was debuked!!! It is an optical illusion where a downhill slope actually appears to be an uphill slope and so it appears that your car is pushed up the hill when really it is going downhill and it is just gravity, HENCE THE NAME GRAVITY HILL, MORONS!!!!! And no I am not closed minded, I just don’t like it when people continue to swear something is true when it has been PROVEN to be FALSE!!!

Starlicious says:

November 3, 2007, 4:35 pm

have you actually experienced it your self? explain the hand prints… all im saying is dont knock it before you try it.. and yes, you seem to be very close minded, like it or not

Starlicious says:

November 3, 2007, 4:46 pm

I DIDNT THINK SO

John says:

November 7, 2007, 3:57 pm

I tried this and the car did move forward. It looks as though the road has a slight incline. HOWEVER, I did find small handprints on the back of my car in the talcum powder afterward (I don’t live near or have small children).

Starlicious says:

November 17, 2007, 4:33 pm

ok… last weekend my friends and i went to shane rd railroad tracks at about 11pm on saturday, the first time we went over, we had the car on and in Netural and we were pushed over the tracks slowly at first, then faster. We were skeptical about the car being in netural so we tried it again, this time, we put the navigator in netural then turned the car off at about 20 ft before the railroad tracks, again we started off slowly and ended up going faster. We got off and looked at the bumper and saw tiny finger prints, not the entire hand only the finger prints. It was AWESOME!! and a bit freaky

george says:

November 21, 2007, 2:51 pm

ok i live aBout 5 mins away from the tracks, friends and i go there sometimes on the weekend to kill time or whatever. To me its nothing the fringer prints and stuff r all true i tried it but the only thing scary ever to me was on the the tracks is that u walk along the tracks say about what 3 blocks or something like that man i started hearing voices and footsteps lol it was pretty freaky but if u want something a little bit freakyer go to the abandond hospitol behind the tracks well heres how u get there go to the tracks on shane rd go to where shane rd meets southten. turn to the right there should a boot camp to ur left cant miss it then turn to the left on farm rd yes farm rd is a dead end go o the end of the rd on ur left it should be there theres about 5 building there all abandond pretty freaky start hearing things and feeling odd but fun oh careful cops roll around alots of times try not to get caught lol and the neighbor across the street yea he has a shot gun he just shoot up it the air to try to scare you and how yea heard about the donkey lady lol

mark says:

November 26, 2007, 2:20 pm

ive been there it is scary i found a penny on top of my dads car im only 9 lol ya should go

Ashley,Kelsey,Jamie,and Alex says:

December 14, 2007, 8:10 pm

well all four of us really want to go but o well and when ashley heard that i think that she litterly ran out of the house

steve says:

December 22, 2007, 4:03 pm

hello everyone. everyone can say what they want but its true i can see ghosts and when i went there it was hell. they need to go to the other side they dont no there died and the street names are not named after them lol dont no where yous got that from lol

Brenda says:

December 28, 2007, 1:12 pm

I’ve read all the stories and I don’t know what to think I mean it’s crazy. I wouldn’t dare to go it sounds really freaky,but it might be intresting to go and check it out.

Laura Ann says:

December 29, 2007, 9:45 pm

My sister-n-law went their and actually recorded everything on video. She brought the video home we saw it and in most of the video we heard children laughing and it sounded as if they were playing. I thought that was spooky because that was never heard while they were on the site it wasn’t until they replayed the video that they heard it. SCARY!!!!!!!!!!!!

keith says:

December 30, 2007, 6:23 pm

I was there about 10 or so years ago and we did put baby powder on the bumper and put the car in neutral. it did move over the tracks and when when saw the bumper afterwords it looked like there could’ve been finger prints on it. it was definetly pretty trippy. but, my step father being a sceptic brought a level with him and lo and behold although it looks like you are going uphill there is actually a slight downhill slope right before the tracks. a car will roll down even the slighest of slopes if you wait long enough.

Timothy says:

January 6, 2008, 6:10 pm

Train-School Bus Collision: Riverton, Utah
Time and Date: 8:43 a.m., Dec. 1, 1938
Weather conditions: Fine snow.
Event: School bus drives on to rail-highway grade crossing in front on an approaching train.
Injuries: 23 school bus passengers and bus driver die, 15 school bus passengers injured.
Accident report: Interstate Commerce Commission report No. 2315.
Description of the collision: A westbound Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad freight train travelling at 52 mph struck a school bus operated by the Jordan School District occupied with 38 students at a county road crossing approximately 2.7 miles west of Riverton. The school bus was demolished in the accident. Report No. 2315 stated the trainâ??s engineman said the locomotiveâ??s whistle was sounding and when the presence of the school bus was noticed, the trainâ??s air brakes were applied in emergency as the train approached the crossing. The light snow falling at the time but vision was estimated to be about 2,500 feet.
A witness said the bus stopped at the crossing and then proceeded on to the track at which time it collided with the train. The surviving students said the windows of the bus were foggy and steamed at the time and it as impossible to see through them. None of the pupils said they heard the approaching train. An investigation showed there was nothing to obstruct the eastward view of the driver other than foggy windows. Visibility was determined to be about one-half mile and the trainâ??s whistle was sounded along with the application of the emergency brake prior to the collision.

Cause of accident: â??This accident was caused by a school bus being driven upon a highway grade crossing directly in front of an approaching train,â? report No. 2315 stated.

Timothy says:

January 6, 2008, 6:15 pm

As evidenced by the above posting there never was an accident, of the nature decribed, in San Antonio. How ever there is what is refered to as a magnetic hill in San Antonio as this Wikipedia Entry states

San Antonio, Texas: At the corner of Villamain and Shane Roads. Travel west on Shane Road to a flat area before a railroad track just east of the right turn onto Villamain. Putting the car in neutral which will cause the car to roll up and over the railroad tracks. Urban legend has it that the ghosts of children killed at the intersection are pushing the car over the tracks, and that powdering the back of the car will reveal their handprints. When performing this experiment, any handprints that might appear were probably already there; the powder allowed them to show up. This area is known as the Ghost Tracks to locals, and the subdivision adjacent to it supposedly has its streets named after the children who died on the tracks in a schoolbus accident with a train in that spot. It is a popular place to take a date on Halloween night. Traffic backs up for half a mile waiting their turn over the tracks. [72]

kat says:

January 7, 2008, 1:08 am

This is not real. It happened in Salt Lake City, Utah.

Cheray says:

January 11, 2008, 3:47 am

Hey This is the same story we have in our town in NE Oklahoma. It is called Gravity Hill. Urban Legends are so stupid and unbelievable.

JRo says:

January 17, 2008, 7:01 pm

I’ve lived in San Antonio almost all my life and have been a paranormal researcher and investigator since I was a little girl. Hard to believe, I know. But it has been a passion of mine since I was in elementary school. Anywho, there are no records of this particular incident happening on Villamain and Shane Road but there are reports of bodies being dumped out there. The place used to be a lot scarier before the new subdivisions started sprouting up. I’ve had weird things happen to me and different groups of friends and strangers alike. As for the unleveled road. If you start at the very top of Shane road where the curve is, you’re bound to move downhill at a fast rate. You’re actually supposed to stop the vehicle 5-10 feet before the RR sign. I hope this helps.

sydnie meyer says:

January 26, 2008, 5:10 pm

the story is so true my teacher did it and video taped it and brought to school and showed it but he put vassaline

A.J. says:

February 23, 2008, 11:43 pm

me,my dad and sum of his friends went to this site and we put the car on neautral and the kids did push it i got so freaked out….and when we got home weve seen the fingerprints behind our car..i couldnt sleep dat night..lol

Ashley says:

February 27, 2008, 10:25 pm

I’m sick of hearing this lame *** story.
I’ve leaved in san antonio my whole life.
and
its getting really really old.

and if your gonna plaster this make beleive story then at least say it right.
theres no way in hell that the bus driver would make the kids go out and push the bus.
adults cant even do that on their own.

also, if you search that accident it doesnt appear in the books.
but one does appear similiar to that.
but its not even in Texas.

AND

if you put your car in nutrel it goes forward on its own.

sorry to burst your bubble kid.

Kaos says:

March 1, 2008, 3:57 pm

I’ve benn there, I put baby pouder on, and it,s true!
Scared the heck out of my mom> Which gave me a chance to pull a prank on her that night, it worked like a charm. =)

mallory says:

March 7, 2008, 5:09 pm

it is said that the same incident happened in oklahoma. i myself have never been to any of them so someone should check them out.

Dawn Paoletti says:

March 11, 2008, 11:30 pm

You always hear this story, here in San Antonio, every Halloween. The Express news published an article about haunted places here, including the one about the train tracks. The paper also reported that there had never been an accident involving a school bus and a train. The reason the baby powder sticks to the trunk of the car is the natural oils on your hands gets on your car trunk every time you open and close it. The fine powder will stick to the oil already on your trunk and look like hand prints.
This is just an urban legend. I’ve lived in other cities that had similar stories.

John says:

March 12, 2008, 2:59 am

We have that same story here in Prosser, WA. We call it Gravity Hill now, because there are no tracks. I haven’t been there personally, but if you talk to the Benton County Sherriff’s Office, they are afraid to go out there.

Melissa van Niekerk says:

March 30, 2008, 5:36 am

Hi, I’m from South africa and we have loads of ghost stries. If anybody is interested in a few tales email me at tongringdrummer@gmail.com

chris says:

April 1, 2008, 4:20 am

your wondering how the same thing coulda happend in two different places well murders happen in two different places that are a hell of alot alike in san antonio it was a bus in el paso it coulda been a car a truck anything people get hit by trains it happens it could be anything doesnt mean its not true or its fake just means it happend somewhere else to

nena says:

April 9, 2008, 12:50 pm

I’ve heard this story before but it was so different. I was told about the crash but the only difference is that I was told that if you put your car to close to the rail road tracks something pushes the car back not forward. Maybe the person that told me got it confused. I don’t know if this story is true. Never been there and I don’t plan on going.

nena says:

April 9, 2008, 12:52 pm

I’ve heard this story before but it was so different. I was told about the crash but the only difference is that I was told that if you put your car to close to the rail road tracks something pushes the car back not forward. Maybe the person that told me got it confused. I don’t know if this story is true. Never been there and I don’t plan on going. I get scared really easy so I don’t plan on finding out if it’s true or not.

bluehedgehog says:

April 9, 2008, 1:21 pm

thats so cool this twelve-year-old loves ghost storys and that one is cool!

Regulator says:

April 18, 2008, 3:26 pm

how come they just didnt move out the way when it was comming there way im pretty sure they would of heard it.

dorothy says:

April 18, 2008, 8:52 pm

hello I have been to these tracks several times and have taken my kids and their friends several times it is true it does push you but what happened one night to us was so crazy I had just been hit from behind on my ford escort wagon and my interior light would stay on so I removed the fuse that would cause the light to work unfortunately it also controlled the radio but I could still use the tape cassette well when we started rolling over the tracks my radio and inside lights came on it was very strange and we smelled a faint cologne that was flowery well no matter what they say about this legend I know that there is no scientific reason that this happened so I believe something is happening there but I do not feel threatened by it I no longer live in San Antonio I so miss all the wonderful places there ……Dorothy

JD says:

April 20, 2008, 1:35 am

I’m sure many others above already stated that there is no such collision in any historical records at this location. The names of the streets are from the land developers family. However, I do have a friend that did this when he lived there years ago, and since it was a foggy night with dew on the car, they didn’t bother with powder. He said he was in the backseat, and as they killed the car, it lurched forward as if it had been tapped by another car, and he physically saw little hand prints appear on the back and side windows in the wetness of the dew.

Allison says:

April 24, 2008, 3:08 pm

This is not true. The road is downhill. There is a slight slope uphill, but the force of being pulled downhill is greater.

The residents in the area would greatly appreciate everyone to quit trying it as it is disturbing, since it is usually done at night, as well as holds up traffic.

Melinda says:

April 25, 2008, 10:09 am

Sonya you dummy if you lived in San Antonio than you would know that this story is true. Even i heard of it and i live in New Braunfels why would somebody say this? You must be desprate to say sumthing like this.Even if there was no records it still happend a long time ago. Do you think they would have records of this accident? you go drive your car on the tracks and explain the kids fingerprints on your car when you experiance it yourself. and them come back and tell us what happend and what feeling you felt as you did it.

matt says:

April 25, 2008, 6:47 pm

i am from san antonio and 8 years ago when i was in drivers ed my instructor and 3 of my friends went there, its really wierd i held the brake and came to a complete stop on the tracks and we still went over its not no down hill when u have to get a 3000 ibl car or truck over that hump after the tracks is a sharp curve that og down hill its some tripy **** man

Mari says:

May 5, 2008, 5:28 pm

I am from Harlingen,TX, My husband my four children and I went by Shane Rd. off of Southton Rd. in San Antonio several years ago. After we went over the tracks several times my eldest son still did not believe this could be happening, He said it was probably the magnetics from the tracks that cause the van to go over the tracks. So he climbed behind the van and held to the top, as the van was going over the hill and over the tracks he jumped off quickly because he felt some one grabbing his legs. He could not believe what had just happened it really scared him he caught up to the van jumped in and wanted to leave fast. I think that made him a believer. In our case as we got home we had several wierd things happen. Cell phone lights would go on in middle of the night with no in coming calls or text coming in, kitchen lights would also blink now I don’t know that, that might of been a Coincidence but it was wierd.

robert says:

May 20, 2008, 2:16 pm

i have been to this site many times as a kid and its true every time we sprread baby powder and the windows there is always handprints after!!!!

Josh says:

May 23, 2008, 4:11 am

Alright, I’m going to make this quick. I’ve lived in San Antonio for a long time now. And I’ve visited this site about a million times. The scene is quite something else. I Would highly recommended going around the hours of 9pm-3am. As for the story it’s just some tale someone made up and it’s been kept alive by the people.
As for the site, like I said it’s something else.., the mood is very depressing and it always seems like something is watching you from the woods. Driving your car over the tracks is just gravity thing. As for the baby powder that can be explained fairly easy, THERE YOUR HANDS AND FINGERS! Oils from your hands tend to rub off of you at times people. I’ve heard story’s of people seeing things down the gravel sides of the tracks, I don’t know much about these sightings other then most of the time it’s always something floating around then running into the woods around the area. Also if you plan on going please bring a weapon for you own safety!!!!! There are satanist in the area, what they do there I don’t have a clue. But people have been attacked by these people. A friend of mine a while back that it would be funny to venture around some of the woods around the tracks and soon found himself ambushed by a mob of these people. He got away safe but need-less to say he got banged up pretty bad for trespassing around there. so please ***!!MAKE SURE YOU BRING SOMETHING TO PROTECT YOURSELF WITH.!!****

Chris says:

May 23, 2008, 5:48 pm

I’ve heard about this ghost story before.

Tiffy says:

May 23, 2008, 5:50 pm

This story is intreging and spooky at the same time, Yup.

Miguel says:

May 23, 2008, 5:50 pm

Ghost?

Christiana says:

May 23, 2008, 5:53 pm

How did they get run over the train? Shouldn’t the bus have gotten ran overed. What a dumb bus driver putting those kids into trouble!

Christiana says:

May 23, 2008, 5:54 pm

What year did this all take place?

Christiana says:

May 23, 2008, 5:56 pm

How did the parents feel? I bet they sent that bus driver to jail.

TCK says:

May 23, 2008, 5:57 pm

I hope whenever I ride the bus that doesn’t happen to me.

TCK says:

May 23, 2008, 5:57 pm

What a tragedy?

Kristie says:

May 28, 2008, 4:13 pm

This really works, I went there about a month ago and we turned off our car, put it in neutral and it started rolling over the hill. You could clearly tell that there is a hill there when you are driving up look at and you can see. Its very crazy, I believe in all this kind of stuff. If you do do this you have make sure you don’t park on the tracks you are suppost to park a little ways behind them. The back of your car should be the distance away from the tracks like the back end of a bus.

nikki says:

May 28, 2008, 9:00 pm

ok, from a skeptics point of view…. I fully researched this location before my husband and I went to the tracks during our last trip to San Antonio. Despite there being no records of an accident on those tracks, it was still an intriguing place to visit. We doused the back of my van with baby powder and did judt as we were directed by our SA friend with us. Just like the legend says, your vehicle WILL proceed over the RR tracks. The handprints you see on your vehicle, well those you actually do see, but like stated so many times previously here, it is the oils from your own hands or those of your loved ones. Even after washing your vehicle many times with the strongest oil-stripping dishsoap, the residual oils from your hands stay on your vehicle for a very long time,through many washes. However, what we could not explain was the small childs handprint near the top of our van, well out of reach of any of our children. We also noticed that when my husband stood behind the vehicle with me behind the wheel, in neutral, the van simply would not move. When he stepped about 10 feet to the side of the van, it started to roll. It is true that Shane Road is a very slight downhill slope, barely noticeable to the naked eye, however, if you stop in the area right before the RR tracks, it does go uphill to go over the tracks. As for there being satanists out there, well, maybe thats just a legend too, as we saw nothing but other people doing the same thing that we were doing and nothing more, no children laughing in the woods, no screams, nothing.

I think it is a very cool place that gives you the creeps, even if you are a skeptic, as the illusion you get is of your vehicle going uphill on its own and over some RR tracks. And that is seemingly unnatural and at first experience is totally unexplainable.

We will be visiting San Antonio in just a few weeks and I plan to take my 3 children there for the first time and scare the daylights out of them, lol

Selina says:

May 31, 2008, 1:09 pm

this really works!
i live inn san antonio and i have been to these tracks several times
and ever time my car was pushed over the tracks
i have never seen any ghost there
but we have oput the bby powder on the back of ou car and there have been two times that small hand prints like that of a child have appeared on the back of myy car
oyu have to check it out for your self to see that it really works
and the street surrounding the tracks are named after the children that lost their lives on the tracks
names like:EATHEN AND ASHLEE

aubrey says:

June 4, 2008, 4:30 pm

when i was around 8 or 9 my mother took me their and it’s one of the scarest places i have been to .we parked on the railroad and put the car in n. the car slowly rolled over the rail road trac

Mick says:

June 15, 2008, 8:03 pm

About the tracks,the telephone pole near the tracks.About after midnight,you will hear some kids screaming.
Here’s some tips on to see the fingerprints on the car,before you go over the tracks.
1.Go to the nearest car wash,and wash it good,use the foam brush,and dry it real good,make sure there’s no prints on it.
2.About 100 yards,shut off your engine,put your foot on the brake,put the gear on neutral.
3.After you go over the tracks,safley pull over the car,and put the baby powder lightly,and blow it off easy,and you will see the small fingerprints of kids.

When I saw it i was shocked,so I went back to the car wash,and washed it,foam brushed,rinsed it,waxed it then drive on the road to air dry it.Then I dried it with a shami real good,got my flashlight,and cheak to see if there’s no fingerprints.I drove back for the second time to the tracks,and tried it again,did the baby powder,and the finger prints appeared again.I did it twice.

San Antonio has a haunted history,especialy downtown.
Remember the battle of the Alamo,most of the ghost,and haunting are from the dead soilders.
Here’s a list of some haunting places in SA.
The Menger
The Alamo
Palacio Del Rio Hotel
Emily Morgan
Spanish Governer Palace
La Villita
The Joe,Harry Freeman Coliseum & AT&T Center
Espada Park
The Alamodome

If you want to read a very good ghost story book.
Read “Ghost Story of Texas” Author Ed Syers

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June 28, 2008, 10:10 pm

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Joie says:

July 4, 2008, 1:13 am

Hey, some friends and I do ghose hunting in san antonio. We are always looking for suggestions, information or joiners..Just a caution though, we do things a little bit more intense then the tracks…if your interested or have any information on Tro Bridge or any other places, please drop me a line…
Thanks!
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BCH says:

July 6, 2008, 1:37 pm

oh my josh.
i really want to do this one :)))))
it has baby powder.
can you supply some for me?!
my bumm has a rash :(((
it hurts soooo bad.
i think its spreading to my blossum :/

BCH says:

July 6, 2008, 1:38 pm

i cant see that one with the picture :/
i dont get it
stick to your day job darlin

ms says:

July 6, 2008, 5:24 pm

Well I know this story is true, but it went another way the driver did not tell the kids to push the bus. It was foggy and the bus brokedown in the middle of the tracks and the train hit it everyone died except the driver he was in a mental hosp.I used to live in San Antonio. So I got to go there. The neighboorhood that waS built there has all the childrens are the streets names….. Seen it !!!

tony says:

July 10, 2008, 1:55 am

i dont care what anyone thinks it takes a believer to think this is true i am a believer it has happened i did this not only once but twice all because i thought it was a joke well let me tell you from a driver and experiance what these kids went trough was horriable tragic and too think yeah it may not have happend in san antonio it could have happend somewhere else well im here to say it has happened….

Caleb says:

July 14, 2008, 9:10 pm

You guys are freaks there are no such thing of ghost on the tracks.

Caleb says:

July 14, 2008, 9:14 pm

All 407 of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mari says:

July 27, 2008, 12:30 am

I was born and raised in San Antonio, and yes, if you park, put your car in nuetral, and wait, your call will get pushed over the tracks, I can promise you that. However, I highly doubt that it is because of a train accident.

fedbre. says:

July 31, 2008, 1:06 am

please let me know where this area of S.A haunted area is at im intregede by the stories of haunted places if I could I would be a part of a organization of ghost hunters. im new to S.A so be exact of area. i watch gost hunters all the time and like to know more.

tom says:

August 14, 2008, 9:22 pm

I went there my freshman year of college about 10 years ago. I didn’t see any ghosts or try putting any baby powder on the tail end of the car, but something did happen. We were in neutral for about 5 minutes when the car started rolling uphill about 10 yards and over the tracks. My best guess would be that it has something to do with optics and gravity or something to that effect. However, I can’t rule out anything supernatural. I only know what happenned and I can say that this one is positively true – ghosts or not.

Lee says:

August 15, 2008, 11:52 am

Hey guys. I went to the ghost tracks last year. All I can say is be careful, because over recent years theres been several murders of people while they’re out there messing with their cars. Not by ghosts or anything, but by the people that live around there. Of course I didn’t know that before I took a car full of friends there. Fun story though:

On our way there we were passed by a white pickup on the little two lane road before you get to the tracks. It passed us going really fast and I though nothing of it a 1/2 mile or so down the road he turned around and came back towards us in our lane! Luckily, a little bit before he got to us he swerved back over to his lane. I dismissed the whole thing because he then just kept driving and eventually we didn’t see him again.
We proceeded to the ghost tracks and went over a few times, and had some fun. Then we parked the car and the three girls that had ridden there with me got out to do the baby powder thing(although we didn’t have baby powder, because all I had with me was shaving cream). While they were spreading this on the back of my car the white truck pulled up onto the tracks and the guy opened his door and began to get out.
The guy got one foot on the ground and the girls screamed and I yelled for them to get back in the car and we sped off. The guy then got back in his truck and spun the truck around and chased after my car. My car sucks so he was able to go much faster than me, so the onlly way I got away was from making all kinds of random turns through neighborhoods until I eventually made it to a main road with lots of people, and he stopped and turned around and didn’t keep after us.
Now its a fun story, but at the time it was pretty scary. So if you go, be careful, and keep an eye out for anyone around who seems suspicious.

Shane says:

August 16, 2008, 2:12 am

Having grown up in SA, I know the legend well. Having been named Shane, the tracks myth is my all time favorite. I hate to admit it, but its all an optical illusion. You are actually up higher than the tracks wen you stop your car. I was a true believer until we went over it one night in a friends 1 ton pickup. * of us in there and the truck still rolled easily. The next daty I went out and checked it out in the sunlight. I rolled an empty beer can from the bed of my truck from the starting point. It slowly picked up speed and went over the tracks without struggle.
The streets names has always been a classic touch too. They ARE all named after children, this is true. But, named after the architects friends and family’s children.

Emilio Garcia says:

August 19, 2008, 3:48 am

there a similar this in Pflugerville, Texas called Jake’s Bridge.
the stroy is that a man named jake was a cotton famer and him and his family lived in a house on top of a hill. well, jake’s cotton field caught fire and he knew him and his family were going to be homeless so to “help” them he took them to a bridge and killed them and then hung himself off the side. now if you go to the bridge and put your car in neutral and turn it off you will begin to be pushed across the bridge. now i have personally been there and the bridge is plat but when you are across the bridge you begin to be pushed slightly uphill. then when you begin to stop and roll back down you are oushed back up. and it seems that you are rocking back and forth.

Becca says:

August 21, 2008, 7:16 pm

People can believe what they want. I have never been there myself, and so I can’t say if it’s true or not. I have never seen if the road goes downhill or uphill. I do know that my friend went with his wife, and their car moved over the tracks. Also, little finger prints showed up on the back of their car. Their friend that they were with videotaped the whole thing. The video also included them cleaning the back of their car with a paper towel and Windex, and then applying the baby powder right before putting their car into neutral. The finger prints still showed up. I don’t know how that fits into the equation of it being oils from previously being touched, because Windex works pretty well on glass with getting rid of fingerprint smudges.

Becca says:

August 21, 2008, 7:31 pm

By the way, my friend put their videotaped experience on the tracks on YouTube, and for those wondering the location of the tracks…. they are on Shane Street.

Alex M. says:

September 1, 2008, 8:25 pm

it sucks

heather says:

September 6, 2008, 6:16 pm

good golly… yes i have heard the story as well.. too many darn post to go through them all .. i only got as far as the Hummer post.. due to the fact i couldnt stop laughing. i lived in the vally for some time and in dallas.. always heard about it in the vally but not in dallas untill my friend from laredo said something about it.. who knows.. i would still like to hear where its located… even though it was said to be too dark to remember.. i could be piss drunk and still remember where it was… and about the whole hummer thing that was soo funny.. i own a hummer and boy.. thoes must of been some uber tall children to be able to reach the rear window to put their hands on it to push it over the tracks.. ill be back to see if anyone knows how to get there besides the fact that its in north part of san anton… 😀

Joe says:

September 9, 2008, 1:52 pm

I lived in texas for my whole childhood and this story was spread around and changed over the years but i know for a fact that my uncle bubba (R.I.P) and i went to these tracks when i was a boy and he spread baby powder all over the tailgate of his truck. We sat in the truck for about 20 to 30 min. with the truck in neautral before it started to roll up a slight incline and over the track. When the truck came to a stop we both got out and went to the tailgate. You could see slight fingerprints and little children handprints barely noticeble but they were there

Ana says:

September 17, 2008, 10:00 pm

Hey Im here to let you know about my trip to the railroad tracks I live here in San antonio and have gone a few time …. something does push you aver and across but for some reason I see the road going down hill

Brandon says:

September 22, 2008, 4:57 pm

I go there alot, but some people say that the “finger prints” are your own finger prints. Nobody has a CLEAN car. And yeah the story is true, but if you notice the site where the children “push your car” is on a downhill. You can barely tell but its the truth! I believe but thats just some fact i liked to put out.

ROME says:

September 28, 2008, 6:25 am

I’m from Houston Tx, but recently about 3 or 4 months ago I Went to San Antonio to visit some family. Well on day I stayed up till 1:30 in the morning to get a call from a friend of mine that needed a favor, so I left walking going East on 410Hwy to a Street called Zarzamora. I did walk to some railroads but im not sure if it’s these being talked about. Before I even crossed the railroads, I look to my left to see as if someone ran into the feilds. Straw was being stepped on being pushed down fast as if they were running. I was skocked but I didnt pay attention to it. My main concern was to get to my destination quick and fast because I knew I was in a city that I didnt know good. As I already passed the railroads, I just kept getting chills on my arms and neck every 4 or 5 minutes.

Zaneta says:

September 30, 2008, 12:33 pm

This is SO LAME!!!!!!!!! I was born there in San Ant, and mother mentioned this story to me i didnt really take it to heart….then i move up here to NY and theres an IDENTICAL story of it happening near here on a railroad track….LAME!!!!

liliana says:

October 3, 2008, 7:23 pm

GUyS it’S NOt tRUE
tHE fiNERPRiNtS ARE yOUR OWN PRiNtS
NOBOdy HAS A ClEAN CAR
&Nd EVERyONE HAS Oil ON THEiR HANdS
&Nd WHEN YOU WASH A CAR
Oil &Nd WAtER dON’t MiX
SO it’S yOUR OWN fiNGERPRiNt
&Nd tHE StREEt iS ON A fREAkiN Hill
SO DUH it’S GONNA GO dOWN
CUZ A Hill ONly tAkES yOU dOWN
BUt if tHE CAR WAS fUlly tURNEd Off
tHEN tHAt’SA diffERENt StORy

Charlene says:

October 8, 2008, 6:40 pm

For those of you who don’t believe in this story need to because it
is true. I was born in San Antonio, and ever since I was little I have heard about this story,and have not only been pushed across the tracks, but for some reason I could hear a train. For all those who know the whole story… no train has passed through there in many decades. If you want to see the full facts on this story you can go to YouTube- Hunted in San Antonio. The story is REAL!!!!!!

Mark says:

October 11, 2008, 5:51 pm

the only reason the car goes forward is cause of gravity and the only reason there is hand prints on ur trunk is cause there ur’s

lizlou says:

October 12, 2008, 11:36 am

well, i’ve heard this EXACT same story. Only, I’m from Iowa the Illinois border and the tracks are said to be about an hour away in Monmouth, Il. I’ve never been, but i’ve heard plenty of people who have been and said it worked. So, maybe both of these tracks- in Illinois and Texas- are on a slope and the story just happens to fit them both. In other words- its bogus.

andrea says:

October 16, 2008, 3:31 am

I grew up in San Antoni, and heard about the railroad tracks, but never did it- i always wanted to. There is also a place i heard about- it was always called “midget mansion”. supposedly the whole house is built scaled down for midgets. but never went there either. and when i was younger there is a hill where a castle/fortress used to be, because there was a tower still standing. I always heard that satanic rituals went on up there and that is was haunted, but i didnt go up to it until they buried the tower for the most part. i forgot what the hill was called but i believe it was near nacogdoches and o’conner, but not sure anymore.

Victoria says:

October 17, 2008, 5:11 pm

Regardless of what you’ve heard, if you go to the tracks this does works. Be it science,gravity,ghosts, or whatever you believe, your vehicle WILL certainly 100% roll over the hill in neutral. I personally think it’s gravitational pull but if you want to believe it’s a ghost, go ahead. Although, ghosts don’t exist so tell yourself what you will.

G7^&S!3~&$%# says:

October 17, 2008, 7:47 pm

this is so FAKE iwent there just last weekend the car pushing the baby powder all fake nuthin happens i dont knw about any1 else but i believe this to be a FAKE

Brittany and Jessica says:

October 18, 2008, 1:16 am

the story is true cause we (and two other roomies) went there today. Of course we did it at night and brought all the baby powder and flashlights etc.
We had many things happen to us..
We had a run in with a bus, and then we saw a 18 wheeler with sparks and flames underneath it (on the highway), we switched the radio station and the first word that came on was “trains” from Paper Planes by M.I.A., and then when we were driving down the dark road out of nowhere two black dogs crossed and we almost hit them (it was scaryyy), we finally then reached the tracks and stopped to see if it would work. We sat there for a few seconds but we never felt the push. Plus a car was driving up behind us and we had to leave and turn around (there were bozo’s taking freakin pictures). So we went back around and put the car in neutral. (we already had powder on the car all OVER IT) The third time we tried it… it was weird cause I all four of us felt the car give a sudden jolt. We then turned around again and went around to the other side of the track. This is where it gets scary, instead of being pushed UP and over the track, we were pushed back. So… explain the gravity thing? its definetly not gravity. it was the ghost kids. We did this again two more times and of course these other two times we were pushed a bit more suddenly. We stopped at the nearest gas station and all over the sides of the car there were fingerprints. They were on the windows on the sides of the car and mostly on the bumpers.

All in all, the thing was awesome and if yah don’t believe us… go try it yourself one night, Halloween night will be even spookier.

Jackie says:

October 18, 2008, 11:57 am

It was also told that there was never any newspaper articles on it or never a story on the news all the streets surronding it are named after all the kids ive been there several times even once on halloween but they close it down because of all the people that go

Patrick says:

October 19, 2008, 7:48 pm

been there done that, its an optical illusion, if u park with ur front wheels on the tracks and put ur car in neutral ur car doesn’t go anywhere. In order for the car to move u have to park a lil ways away from the tracks. Now my question is if ur on the tracks and it doesn’t move but if ur stopped where ur suppose to be when a train passess and the car moves, it would seem to me that the ” spirits ” would be trying to push you ONTO the track and INTO the path of the train. As far as the fingerprints go, is ur own finger prints, the babypower just reveal them. As far as the accident goes, it never happend, there is no public record of the accident ever to have taken place to begin with.

angel says:

October 19, 2008, 11:12 pm

i went to the tracks one night i have a black dodge car and i did put baby powder on the back the kids did push the car off the tracks it was freaky specially when i seen all the tiny hand prints. and yes all the streets are named after all the kids. so this story is completly true but now because so many people do it that around halloween cops look out for this spot and will ticket any one that does this also that night i did it believe it or not u could hear the train and see headlights from it when we got to the bottom we waited for the train and it never came but u heard the horn.

Leslie says:

October 27, 2008, 1:01 pm

I had the same experience one time with my family. We were going to see if the story that everyone was telling us about the pushing of cars or whatever..it was true

Roe says:

October 29, 2008, 4:41 pm

Sorry to say, but the truth is that the road is built in such a way it causes gravity to pull the car forward from any spot on Southton Rd. the street the tracks run through. I’ve done it before just like everyone that is from San Antonio has done growing up. I debated this with friends and even a friend who works with TxDOT who said its always been the way the road was built and that the legand arose over decades. However, it continues to scare people and amaze them as well. On any Friday or Saturday night you can always find Southton Rd. lined with cars waiting their turn to let the “kids push” them over the tracks…even I still do it every once in a while despite knowing the truth.

Eddie says:

October 30, 2008, 2:24 pm

The site actually exsist, wether or not it is actually haunted by the spirts of dead school kids is up to your own interpretation. I have lived in San Antonio all my life and am very familiar with the story. Some littls known facts about the site are available through the archives at the local newspaper, the Express News. There has actually been record of the discovery of a body (bones) of an unidentified teenage girl found by some passers by just south of the infamous haunted crossing. Identification of her bones was made by the Bexar County Medical Examiners Office after months of drawn out investigation. The story of the girls murder was actually featured on the cable tv networks A&E show Dr G Medical Examiner. So there may actually be merit to the haunted tracks!!!!!!

Eddie says:

October 30, 2008, 2:26 pm

The site actually exsist, wether or not it is actually haunted by the spirts of dead school kids is up to your own interpretation. I have lived in San Antonio all my life and am very familiar with the story. Some little known facts about the site are available through the archives at the local newspaper, the Express News. There has actually been record of the discovery of a body (bones) of an unidentified teenage girl found by some passers by just south of the infamous haunted crossing. Identification of her bones was made by the Bexar County Medical Examiners Office after months of drawn out investigation. The story of the girls murder was actually featured on the cable tv networks A&E show Dr G Medical Examiner who actually worked in San Antonio for some time. So there may actually be merit to the haunted tracks just not from the sources everyone assumes!!!!!!

haley peterson says:

November 5, 2008, 11:11 am

one time i was crossing a bridge over some water and then i looked into the water and seen a mother holding her baby and then you can hear the mother screaming and the baby crying!!!!!! its was the most scariest thing in my whole life!!!!and when you walk back home they fallow you and then if you scream you will never be heard from again!!!

karina vives says:

November 9, 2008, 1:02 am

ive been going to the tracks since i was small…but kno i can actually admit that i saw hand prints on my car with the baby powder..its such a good place to go on late nights…tyall should also try the insane asylum that is burned down an abandoned its like 2 streets down bby the boot camp!

ELISA says:

November 10, 2008, 2:45 pm

i LiVE iN EL PASO TX. N THAT THING BOUT THE RAiLROADS ITS TRUE.
:/

michelle says:

November 18, 2008, 5:08 pm

i noticed no one has posted directions but its located in the southshide right by the baseball field.i have done this before with my family and friends and ive heard the same stories that people have wrote about.it you dont believe this, thats fine because everyones entitled to their own opinion but why do yall get mad jus because our beliefs are different.i mean seriosuly,let people think what they want and for those who have done this already, its not scary at all but its a un experience.

Bry says:

December 17, 2008, 3:51 am

I have been there myself and it was wierd. I did not believe it at first either so had to see for myself. You could hear the kids screaming and talking to get your car across the tracks. Also if you sit indian style on the tracks facing the east close your eyes and put hands on the tracks you can see it all happen. Now that was the wierd part. If it did not really happen whats up with that?

samantha says:

December 27, 2008, 10:16 pm

i live on the south side of san antonio ive been there many times and all the things they say are true you put the baby powder on the back of your car park on the tracks and an unknow force does push you off the tracks one time my husband went and while wating on the tracks the car stoped the doors locked from the inside the lights started to flicker the windows did not want to roll down the raido started to change on its onw then all of a sudden the lights tuned on and somethng pushed them off the tracks it was weird me and my friendsin a car behind them it scared the heck out of us and we never went back

debbie says:

January 4, 2009, 12:28 am

need direction how to get to railroad tracks from 1-10 and wurzbach

Eric Hayes says:

January 13, 2009, 12:10 pm

I have also lived in San Antonio all my life, and heard the urban legend about these so-called “ghost tracks” many times. When I was younger (about 18 or 19) myself and some friends of mine went out there to see what all the hubbub was about. Having seen actual photos of “handprints in the baby powder” on the backs of people’s cars (they had a story about it all in The San Antonio Light), we went out there in “full investigative mode”, complete with a freshly washed car and baby powder. One of my friends that went along is a surveyor, and he brought some of his equipment as well.
The first thing we did when we got there was to have my surveyor friend set up his tripod and check out the area at the tracks crossing. He confirmed that there is definitely a slope that goes in the direction that cars are supposedly “pushed”. We also tried the whole bit with the baby powder. The car did “move” across the tracks, as it was a heavy car and when you have a slight slope and a heavy car, this mysterious force known as “gravity” will make it roll downhill. We did this several times. Afterwards when we checked the baby powder, we did not see any tiny handprints, pawprints, scuffmarks, *anything* to indicate that we were mysteriously “pushed” across the tracks. We concluded that while the story about the bus crash *might* be true, the bit about the ghost children is nothing more than a bunch of hype and lots of overactive imaginations or downright hoaxers. If you want to visit some “real” haunted areas in San Antonio, try The Alamodome, or even University Hospital in the Medical Center, where a ghost named “Murphy” likes to wreak havoc a few times a year.

Eric Hayes says:

January 13, 2009, 12:42 pm

For those of you who wish to check out the “ghost tracks” yourself, they are on the southeast side of San Antonio, just outside of loop 410. The easiest way to get there is to take Mission Parkway (off of SE Military dr) all the way out till it ends at Villamain Rd. Take a right on Villamain and follow it all the way to it’s end. Note the railroad tracks to the left of Villamain rd as you follow it. Those are the legendary tracks. The “haunted railroad crossing” is at the intersection of Villamain and Shane roads. It is easily viewable in google earth. Just to the east of that area is the little development where all the streets are named after kids. The names of the streets are as follows: “Laura Lee Way”, “Nancy Carole Way”, “Cindy Sue Way”, “Richie Otis Way”, and “Bobbie Allen Way”. It’s coordinates are 29º19’02.00″N, 98º26’36.02″W.

Jennifer Scott says:

January 16, 2009, 12:37 am

I just went there a few minutes ago and it really does work. Your car will be pushed up the hill when stopped and put in neutral.

A.A says:

January 30, 2009, 1:28 am

I went to the railroad tracks twice this month and they told me to turn my car off on the x befor the rail road tracks and it pushed us over at first it was freaky but then i realized it on a incline on a hill it looks straight but its just an illusion to the eyes because there is a hill at the end of the rail road tracks . As for the finger prints i found on my trunk from the baby powder i believe that no matter how much you clean your car you will always have the oils on there from your prints. It a Lie …. San antonios night life is sleazy and ghetto dont go!!!

Alex says:

February 17, 2009, 5:55 pm

The story isnt true at all, not even the bus being hit by a train. Some say that the streets around the area are named after the children that died but in fact are the names of the the children of the developers of the area.

Dark Lord says:

February 25, 2009, 10:25 pm

I live by a place with that exact same story attached to it only its located in Illinois

Garrett says:

March 12, 2009, 12:51 pm

I have been and went with an open mind about the whole situation. We tried the baby powder on 3 different cars and did get finger prints but there were also smudges around them from the oil I had on my hands earlier that day. It could be little kids but I would say they were my finger prints. We also noticed that the road is slanted just enough that it will make your car roll while in neutral. We also used a basketball, can, a small wagon, and a few other items that also rolled down. No little kids would care to push an empty wagon or anything out of the way. The best way to test this, just as we did, is pull your car right up to the tracks, not up the street a little ways like most do. You will see that the car doesn’t roll while in neutral because there is a rise before the tracks that it will not get over. You can say that the kids aren’t strong enough to push from there, that’s ridiculous. A ghost would not have a limit on strength so I believe this to be false.
The asylum just down the road, though, scared the living **** out of me!

BELINDA says:

March 17, 2009, 9:24 pm

I WENT TO THE TRAINTRACKS MANY TIMES AND YES IT IS TRUE,I EVEN HAVE PICTURES TO PROVE IT!

Traci H. says:

March 29, 2009, 9:50 pm

I want to see the pictures.

Johanna says:

March 30, 2009, 8:26 pm

i heard of this story i live in houston n i heard it was true i never been down there but it came up in the radio. the radio hosts went down there n said that they put baby powder on the back n put the car in neutral n they felt the car being pushed n this was live so who knows. i heard that the kids push the car so you wont suffer the same fait they did

Brian says:

March 31, 2009, 1:00 am

I grew up in S.A. and heard that story too. I’m 33 now and still believe it. When I went I was 17. Me and four of my friends piled in my car and we stopped completely on the tracks. Put it in neutral. It VERY slowly moved forward and stopped when we cleared the tracks. We were all freaked but excited at the same time. Me and another got out and sat on the hood to see if it would keep moving, nothing happened though. We didn’t put the baby powder on it either. I heard the reason it moves is some polarity deal. Don’t know how that works. It really is a spooky area though. There is a huge baseball field next to it that IS in use. Furthermore if you drive down the road when you are done, the trees lined up perfectly next to the railroad track all totally bend AWAY. It’s spooky as hell. It’s caused by years of fast winds from the trains though. It causes the trees to bend away and eventually stay that way. One last thing. Back in the early 90’s when we did this, it was like an attraction. There were 15-20 cars behind us waiting for their turn to get ‘pushed’ over.

In conclusion, it’s either ghosts pushing us over, or that wierd polarity deal I mentioned before.

Spooky nontheless but it’s fun so give it a go.

suzy says:

April 9, 2009, 1:20 am

When i was a kid my parents played softball at that field next to the tracks when we will go i will feel the car move and see the finger prints it was fun but crazy spooky at the same time!!

Kat says:

April 10, 2009, 10:16 pm

For everyone out there I also believe this to be true My Husband is from Texas and He has told me this story, and they also have made a movie about this it is called “Fingerprints.” I think everyone should see this movie.
ALSO!
HI! I LIVE IN THE RIO GRANDE VALLEY AND HAVE HEARD ABOUT THIS FREAKY STORY IN SAN ANTONIO. BUT IF YOU WANNA HEAR SOMETHING VERY REAL AND SPOOKY HEAR THIS ONE OUT. ABOUT 18 OR 19 YRS AGO A BAD SCHOOL BUS/COCA COLA TRUCK ACCIDENT HAPPENED IN ALTON TX. THIS IS LOCATED IN THE LOWER RIO GRANDE VALLEY. THE SCHOOL BUS WAS STRUCKED BY THE COKE TRUCK AND WAS PUSHED INTO A CALICHE DITCH THAT HAD ENOUGH WATER TO CAUSE SOME OF THOSE STUDENTS TO DROWN. I PASSED BY THE ACCIDENT SIGHT THE NEXT DAY IT HAPPENED AND IT FELT VERY VERY FREAKY. BUT NOW SO MANY YEARS LATER THEY SAY THAT IF YOU GO BY THERE AT NIGHT YOU CAN HEAR ALL THESE CHILDREN CRYING FOR HELP. COME BY AND VISIT THE SIGHT I NEVER WENT BACK EVENTHOUGH I LIVE ABOUT 20 MINUTES FROM THERE. I DONT GO BACK CAUSE I DO BELIEVE THE PEOPLE THAT HAS HEARD THEM AND IM TOO SCARE TO GO. REMEMBER THIS PALCE IS LOCATED AT ALTON TX, NEAR MCALLEN TX I DONT KNOW THE NAME OF THE STREET BUT IF YOU COME AROUND HERE JUST ASK ANYBODY ABOUT IT AND THEY WILL DIRECT YOU TO THE SIGHT. AND IF YOU WANNA RESEARCH IT, IT HAPPENED ABOUT 18 OR 19 YRS AGO.

If you are coming from the mission are go to the 5 mile line and keep on following it and you will come upon this area it has a fence around it and also there are a lot of flowers on the fence too.

Ryan says:

April 16, 2009, 3:01 am

i have seen it for myself, it IS real! I also saw a ghostly figure and his dog too…

Merrill says:

April 22, 2009, 8:02 pm

I was on the tracks outside my car and a ghost child stood there and smiled at me. I kept running and the child ran after me and its lips were stitched to where it looks like a smile. I keep thinking about that day and it makes me cry.

Ed says:

April 23, 2009, 2:19 pm

Matt is a dirty Jew who loves Brandon

Jessica says:

April 28, 2009, 8:44 pm

A couple of my friends and i just visited this site a few nights ago first we did as they say we pulled up put the car in neutral and yes it did feel as though we were pushed over the train tracks but that’s not the scary part i then thoght well lets turned the car backwards and i couldn’t believe it but the car moved backwards up the train tracks it was CRAZY though we did out powder on the car no fingerprints :(

Marie says:

May 13, 2009, 5:56 pm

I belive that something is there because when I was little my grandma took me there. I didn’t know it at the time but it was a summer day and i had my arm out the window and i heard something and felt someone touch me as they park over the tracks. Thats when my grandma told me when I got home about the story there. I don;t know why there is no record of the accident but there is diffently something there. I f you don;t belive me then i dare you to go there and keep your windows down and see what happens.

anna says:

May 22, 2009, 8:56 pm

Spoiler Alert ……..I have lived in San Antonio my whole life….. If you put your car in nuetral it will go over the tracks. The secret is…. It is an optical illusion you are acctually going downhill. Look at the tree line.

belinda says:

May 29, 2009, 5:59 pm

Well i live in San Antonio and I’v been to these tracks..and to tell you the truth..its not true. The handprints on your car are old prints from either you or someone that touched yuor car, they never go away..and the tracks are on a hill so of course your car is going to roll. Plus there is no report on this accident anyway..i think its just a story to scare kids. Oh and the streets arent named after the kids..its just to go along with the story..by the developer.

JOSE says:

May 31, 2009, 2:22 am

I HEARD ABOUT THIS AND I WAS CURIOUS SO ABOUT 6 ADULTS AND 5 KIDS WENT AND I ACTUALLY HAPPENED I TRIED TO STOP MY VEHICLE WITH MY BRAKES I WAS TOLD DONT DO THAT YOULL GET THE KIDS MAD .THAT NIGHT I WAS SO SCARED I MY DOG SLEPT WITH ME THAT NIGHT,

Rambo says:

June 8, 2009, 11:24 am

I have lived in San Antonio my whole life, around 22+ years. Coincidently right down the street from the ‘Ghost Tracks’. Personally, I have always gotten a thrill out of going to the tracks. Whether its true no not, I do not know, there are no records of such an incident. But there is definetly something supernatural about the general area.

If you want another scare, right around the corner from the tracks is the old haunted asylum that is known but not so popular. I have taken dozens of people out there. The asylum IS haunted. If anyone wants to go there hit me up on myspace. (myspace.com/sinistermyth).

laurence says:

June 16, 2009, 11:39 am

i am from san antonio and i lived close to it. i here kids playing all the time out there and it freaks me out. i do believe that there is more to the story that we know amd that it is not no accident.

S M Boyd says:

June 18, 2009, 4:30 pm

I saw this report on TV several years ago and looked it all up. I visited the site, near the housing development with children’s names on streets. I took a level and other survey equipment with me. Althought the street looks level, it is acutally a gentle grade of about 2 degrees down hill, except for the immediate area on and a couple of feet across the tracks, that is level. Across the tracks the incline increases to almost 5 degrees downhill across the tracks. I had just washed and cleaned my car and applied powder, THERE were NO prints, even though the car slowly rolled down hill and across the tracks (gravity works), starting about twelve feet before the tracks. Too much superstition here and not enough facts. Check for yourselves!!!

Ana says:

June 21, 2009, 3:45 pm

i live in san antonio and ibeen there plenty of timess and it is truee its really scary when you go at night because there is nobody around and you hear weird noises in the woods if you put baby powder you can see the lil kids hands you shouldd try goingg!

Lety says:

June 22, 2009, 9:25 pm

i do belive that this is true! i just got back from visiting and a great beliver in ghoasts. when my cuzions had told me the story i wanted to see for myself. so we all want in the car. i had my camera with me but it wasnt digital at all so i had to waite to see the pic. when i got home. gut i went twice down the tracks . the one time we did it without powder and the the second time i got my makeup powder and put it on the bumper only. when we did this i was talking pic. till we started to stop i didnt take any more pics. i didnt want to stop and look because i didnt want them to get mad becuse our car really didnt stall. so we whent up to the missionary ant looked. we found the powder that we put on the bumper was on the wondows as finger prints. nut there was one that stood out to me that there was no one that touched it its was a bit bigger than every one elses in the car.but then when i got home and developed the pics. and found one in perticular i found a little boy in the side mirror pushing the car looking forward.

Kathy says:

June 24, 2009, 11:58 am

Letty I would love to see that picture. I am a true believer and have my share of encounters.

totzie says:

June 28, 2009, 3:35 pm

I went last weekend and that wasn’t the story i’ve heard. Went on a saturday nite around 10 or 11. There was a few cars doing this activity. It was me and a group of friends. So i’ve been there before like seven years ago but they haven’t. We where passing the rail road tracks while we were being pushed. i started taking pictures facing the back window. I have 2 pictures on my camera i haven’t posted them. On the two pictures i have two images. I have shown it to people and its really scary. Now i have proofs.

jhud77 says:

July 13, 2009, 11:01 pm

went to san antonio this weekend form the 9th to the 13th and the family and i went there on the 10th during the day. i think the ground is a little slanted which makes you go down hill. u pick up enough speed to go down hill to roll you over the train trakcs but it was scary even at 5:00pm during the day. but it is not haunted in my opinion.

Cortes 6 says:

July 15, 2009, 11:32 am

Can some one send me pics of these said street signs and directions so me and my family ca go.Why Dont someone take avideo recorder and tape it then post it on the net maybe then we will believe.

Reba Parker says:

July 22, 2009, 6:30 am

I have been to this exact spot and the car we were in rolled uphill over the tracks while in neutral. There were tiny fingerprints on the trunk visible because the car was very dusty.
This was in 1985 and I was 15 and scared like I was 5! We were there (San Antonio) for a 4-H meet and I have never been back. Two of our group members had an aunt living there and her daughter took us there to the tracks at about midnight. It freaked me out and I cried to come home to Fort Worth.
Funny now – but not then!
IT IS REAL!!!!

gracie says:

August 8, 2009, 10:35 am

I LIVE IN THE SOUTH SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO TEXAS . MY FAMILY AND I GO VISIT THERE SOMETIMES AT NIGHT. ONE TIME WE WENT THERE OUR TRUCK WAS ALL DIRTY WE WENT 2 THE TRAIN TRACKS NO HND PRINTS.210-SOUTH SIDE-BLOODZ-B’S^

Brett says:

August 10, 2009, 5:42 am

been there and the truck went across the tracks but the next day me and my brother in-law went to the tracks with his surveying equitment and the road is at a 1.28 dagree list. hate to spoil the fun kids

kesh says:

August 17, 2009, 10:54 pm

ILL BE GOING THERE WED 8/19/2009 IF EN 1 WANTS 2 JOIN R MEET ME THERE COME ON I WILL HAVE BEER AND WEED WELL HAVE A PARTY

kesh says:

August 17, 2009, 10:58 pm

SOME1 MEET ME THERE 8/19/2009 ILL BRING WEED N BEER C YA THERE

Michelle Mendez says:

August 18, 2009, 11:41 am

I attempted to go but there were cops everywhere there so we left and if you think about it you should probly wash your car before going if you have touched the back of your car prior to going your own prints will appear. so i am not a hudge fan of hauntings but was determend to see that one. there are always a logicaly explaination to alot of hauntings i have to weigh out your pros and cons before beilve it…

paula says:

August 27, 2009, 1:40 pm

Well ofcourse people that have not been there don’t believe it, but i’ve been to that place MANY times and each and every single time, my car gets pushed, it is true that there are no recorded accident about a bus with kids but what is true is that your car gets moved, the weirdest thing is that is kind up hill and when you get to the top of the tracks you feel a greater force that pushes you hard!!! this is just amazing to experience, i really don’t believe in ghosts or anything like that but i do believe what i see! so for those that say this is all ****, try making a road trip over there and find out for yourselves!!!!

anne says:

August 28, 2009, 11:45 am

yea its true its really scary im from the south side of san antonio so i go when i can with my friends. we turn off all the lights and music and stay quiet we roll down are windows and put car in neutral one night we were almost all the way over the tracks and the car went a lil faster like we even felt a jult. omg was i scared and some times you can hear voices. also for soem reason we always end up going on a rainy night.

Joey says:

September 10, 2009, 8:53 am

im a ghost investigator and ive been going there and looking up the archie of that and it is true and it is very haunted.

Roxanne says:

September 16, 2009, 4:31 pm

I have never been there but I do believe the story. First of all there was a crash with the bus, but I didnt hear the story the way it was told cause it doesnt make sence that the kids pushed the bus and then they got hit with the train cause shouldnt they have heared the train at least a block away so they had alot of time to move out of the way. This is the way I heard it. The bus was going over the tracks but then it stopped working the kids tried to get out but the doors of the bus wouldnt open then they got hit with the train that makes more sence. but still i believe the story 100%

Ms. Jaie says:

September 21, 2009, 7:54 pm

i have stayed in tx all my life and i have been hearing this story since i was 10 or 11 maybe and i am now 29. now that i am old enough im a part of a ghost hunting team, and i would love to have directions to this site to see if this is fact or fiction. tx is a big state with a lot of legends…

maL says:

September 22, 2009, 1:59 pm

yaHHH i live in SA BUutt i THINk this aLLL truee!!!!

hillayjune says:

September 28, 2009, 7:37 pm

my uncle went he says it isnt true i belive him. he has gone to evey scary site in texas no gosht just try them all out your self.(:

roxanne91993 says:

September 29, 2009, 2:13 pm

ok first of all hillayjune. its your uncles word against at least 300 words. everyone that i have known say that there was something or someone that pushes them across the tracks so i believe them.

paula aquino says:

September 30, 2009, 10:26 am

ok let’s forget about the story for a bit,,, let’s see the facts: there is something that pushes your car and its proven!!! nobody knows what but it does happen and who ever says that is not true, just go out there, google the location (which is really easy) and GO!! just GO! you’ll be freaked out and then you’ll agree with us..we’re not inventing this, we’re just commenting on something that is real and its out there, if you haven’t been there then shut up!!!!!

Ariel (Linda Velis) says:

October 3, 2009, 1:28 pm

Been there severl times and yes it is true. I have leaved in S.A. for over 30 years and i will say Yes it is true. My sister and i would ride over it on a skateboard. if you sit on it and stay still you will get pushed across and you will even feel finger tips on your back if you do not believe me try it. IT WORKS.

Ariel (Linda Velis) says:

October 3, 2009, 1:31 pm

Been there several times and yes it is true. I have lived in S.A. for over 30 years and I will say Yes it is true. My sister and I would ride over it on a skateboard. If you sit on it and stay still you will get pushed across and you will even feel finger tips on your back if you do not believe me try it. IT WORKS.

roxanne says:

October 5, 2009, 2:03 pm

man thats so cool idk know that it can push you on a skateboard to man that must have given you shivers!!! :)

Theo says:

October 7, 2009, 3:14 am

Its a cool story, and ive been there and something does push you over but it doesnt make sense. i mean you can hear and see a train coming. those kids and teacher would not risk there life to save a bus. but i guess its possible if it stop on the tracks as the train was coming and didnt have enough time to get everyone out maybe.

sLip_roMpe says:

October 9, 2009, 7:01 pm

Yes, it is all mostly true. Even the skateboard part. When I was about six y.o. my brothers and I went to “The Tracks” to try it out in the snow. It was the last snow storm we had in San Antonio (1986) and sure enough, something or someone pushed us up and over the hill…on our sled!!! I couldn’t return there until my mid-teens and even then I couldn’t let my friends know how terrified I was. I also now play softball at the park behind The Tracks. We are pretty good too, so if you visit the Tracks, stop at the park on friday nights and cheer me on. GO CARDINALS SOFTBALL

peBBLes says:

October 9, 2009, 7:30 pm

It’s true it’s true, uh-huh, my boyfriend says so! Here are the links so you can googlemap it or mapquest it but if you google map it, you can totally see my bf hitting bombahs out the park at his softball game! Google map it as Victory Sports Park 2902 Shane RD. San Antonio Texas and the tracks is on the corner of Villmain and Shane roads! You can even zoom in and see the ghosts sometimes…and my boyfriends bombahs!!! I love him so much. and ghosts too! http://bit.ly/1X1sls for mapquest

kyley says:

October 10, 2009, 5:29 am

thatz just like the movie fingerprints

Lisa says:

October 14, 2009, 10:55 pm

I have wondered if the road leading to the railroad tracks is actually level. The tracks can only be crossed with the car in neutral in one direction. Maybe the spirits are only protecting one side of the tracks or there is a slope that propels cars forward with enough force to cross these tracks. Yes, I did apply pressure on my brakes many times and each time my car continued forward.

Stephen Boyd says:

October 15, 2009, 12:32 pm

I visited the site a while back and did some investigating. The high side of the tracks, towards the development is actually up hill of the tracks. I used a level on the ground to determine this, since it really does appear to be level, but isn’t. Also after much research, the streets are named after the Developer’s family and friends. There never was a bus accident involving fatalities at that intersection. It does make a great story though, doesn’t it?

paula says:

October 15, 2009, 12:41 pm

well, in fact there has been some research about it and they came up that the tracks are downhill, and people just try to make up a story just for the fun of it! haha and yeah i also read that the names on the streets are the names of the developer’s family members! but what i don’t understand is that the times i’ve been there and while i’m being pushed i get to the top of the tracks and all of the sudden i get pushed with a greater force, i mean i can literally see my head reacting to the momentum. like if there’s a change of the amount of force being applied to my car… its just weird :S, i don’t know how can that be explained :)

Chola says:

October 16, 2009, 5:03 am

Well this is not a mith I wenth ther wene huracan catrina strucked New Orlians and I wasen’t alone wene the kids push us out of the train tracks it was amaesing to see the hans on the car and we trayed 2 count them it was more then 20 thats all I can remember cuz I was about 12 wene that happend

Courtney says:

October 17, 2009, 6:20 pm

This did not take place in San Antonio, not even Texas. If you properly wash your vehicle and wipe for prints nothing will show up when the Talcum powder is used, the powder clings to the natural oils of your body. As for the car moving if angled properly there will be a slight gravitational pull because of how you are situated. All natural occurences.

chupe lopez says:

October 17, 2009, 7:48 pm

names of streets are children of the developer and grandkids,tracks are on an incline.you can put a ball down and watch it roll on it’s own .this was researched years ago.no train wreck.baby powder prints mean you need to wash your car

Lou says:

October 17, 2009, 8:14 pm

It’s not true, paranormal investigators who came to S.A. would say the same thing. There’s no record of it happening and the finger prints on theback of the car are made by the oils on your hand that you left the last time you touched your car =) glad to burst your bubble!!!

Dana says:

October 18, 2009, 11:09 pm

I am from San Antonio tx, yes thier was a crash! I know this because it was my ex husbands grand father driving the train. I too have been to the tracks and these events of being pushed over, are absolutly true. The entire Stair family has been in the rail road industry for quite some time. My husbands father still on the rail road, his brother still on the rail road. It was a horrable thing that happened, but very much true.

NIKKI says:

October 22, 2009, 3:19 pm

Snopes Knows Best…Read for yourselves:

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/ghosts/handprint.asp

zeno says:

October 23, 2009, 1:30 am

the address is 3030 Shane Rd. 78223

Hank Moody says:

October 24, 2009, 11:46 pm

lol Texans are so full of S***!!

rob lobster says:

October 26, 2009, 8:27 pm

I’ve lived in SA all my life amd have numerous times been to the ghost tracks w/girlfriends etc. Although the whole area is supposedly haunted most of our “hauntings” originate near old missions, or scenes of catastrophe. The area around the tracks has also had alledged “satanic” activity. So if the bus accident wasn’t an actual occurence there are a host of missions in the area which possibly causes the phenomenom.

dale says:

October 29, 2009, 9:57 am

fake, been there hundreds of time, patrolled the area for nearly six years, never saw anything during the day or at night……..ridiculously absurd what people do out there…sorry to disappoint, but people deserve the truth

valeriee says:

October 30, 2009, 9:51 am

i have heard that before..alot of ppl say its not true…but who am i to talk …i havent been to the tracks

Irene Escalante says:

October 30, 2009, 11:11 am

This is no lie, when I was young my mom and grandma went here. We didn’t even know about the train tracks. We were just looking for a short cut. Are car wasn’t a very good car but hey it took us from point a to point b. Well we were driving then a car stoped close to the trains tracks and then it didn’t want to start, then out of no where it started to move I was screaming and crying telling my grandma to stop playing. She put her hands up and sitted indian style. The car moved by it self over the tracks and you even herd a train coming. We stayed the and called someone and found out where we were at and we checked the car. There were many diffrent hand prints and even a face. I swer no lie.. I was 12 I’m 17 now..

Savannah says:

November 1, 2009, 12:02 pm

i myself have been there.we put the car in nural and were pushed but we didnt put powder on the car.i also was driven around and saw the names of the streets were named after the children the died while pushing the bus across the tracks.

Jocelyn says:

November 6, 2009, 11:30 am

So i went there for the first time….since my dad died even since I was young ive felt things or seen cetain unexplainable things….i snapped some picture in the pitch black and when i left , started looking through them and I have a picture and I and all of my friends have looked at it and I swear there is a person in the photo..looks half shadow half human..so yeah i TOTALLY believe this

Maria Cristina says:

November 19, 2009, 2:46 pm

Okay first of all those who said that this aint true…have y’all even gone to go try it?! Because if y’all havent then y’all shouldn’t be saying anything without proving you’re right. I went to this place. My dad took me. We parked our Expedition right infront of the tracks and set on neutal. About 6 seconds later we were moving across the tracks. Before parking infront of them we placed dirt on the back of our windshield so we checked them and there we saw small handprints. So please don’t be saying anything if you don’t know what you’re doing.

Maria Cristina says:

November 19, 2009, 2:48 pm

My bad one more thing…..about the children’s names being used to name the streets.THAT I don’t think its true. The whole story about this is good enough but whoever came up that the streets were named after the kids…don’t hurt yourself.

Ann X says:

November 22, 2009, 11:39 pm

A friend of mine told me about the traxx I didn’t believe her so out of curiosity we went right after work 5 pm in the DAYTIME!. we got there and
I cleaned all human handprints from the car.
the car was white we didn’t have babypowder so I scooped up dirt and blew
a light film of dirt on the car……I laughed and felt like an idiot but what the hell let’s see if it’s true. the car was in neutral and we rolled
we both got out and looked and yes there was a very caked on hand print.
THERE WAS NOBODY AT THE TRAX BE ME AND MY FRIEND till 8:15 pm .
we went over the trax numerous of times then I decided to get in the back passenger seat I opened the door and started to talk to the spirits and yes the handprints started showing up on the side of the car the door and roof of the car. I was amazed.
I wrote a song about the trax calles GRAVE YARD TRAIN. we we’re at the bass players house and I was explaining a song to my rythym section and we heard a little girl laugh it came through my amp……..practice was over.
we eventually went into the recording studio to record the song and when
the studio guy started to mix grave yard train the power to the house goes out everything went dead the lights started to flicker off and on 3 times then everything went back to normal. the guy recording us said “I have been recording in my house for 3 years and this is the first time this has happend….that was weird!”

Tracy Martin says:

November 27, 2009, 12:32 am

I have been here and done this. It is soo true. Heres how I know… My dad, his girlfriend, and I sat on the trunk of my car and this was in July, so I was wearing shorts and I felt bone chilling coldness from my knees to my ankles.

Mrs G says:

November 28, 2009, 3:22 pm

Ok so I’ve been to these tracks and let me tell you its scared the hell outta me! I wasnt a big believer of ghosts and what nots but that night we went changed my point of view. So its me, my cousin, my sister, my aunt, and one of her friends who lives there in her car. I’m sitting here thinking these people are wasting my time when low and behold i hear kids whispering and giggling!!!! Yes whispering AND giggling as the car starts to roll over the train tracks!!! I froze and didnt say a word seeing as I was the one who was the non believer. When we got outta the car my sister told my aunt she heard the whispering and giggling and my aunt said she did too. then i told them i had heard it also. There were no kids around to make those whispers or giggles much less any kids close enough to the car we were in for us to hear with the windows up.

melanie says:

December 3, 2009, 4:34 am

we’ve just watched the real story in discovery chanel.there’s no ghost n the accident happened in other country.

jessica garcia says:

December 9, 2009, 1:23 pm

gosh this is seriously creepy i would like to someday go to these tracks because i would really want to meet these scary places in texas hopefully soon…………!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jazminbaby says:

January 5, 2010, 3:12 pm

I think that it not true becaus its like a small hill that you cant see but i just may be wrong and i please have the address and try to see if it works or not it would be a fun ride!

Joni Solis says:

January 9, 2010, 12:26 am

this is really true…*for those that dont believe* if u want try it out….lets see how freaked out u will be when u see the hand prints on ur bumper….

Eddie De La Rosa says:

January 21, 2010, 8:56 pm

Yes this site is really haunted. I have been there plenty of times also trying new things. Very first time I went we didnt use the powder but non the less the car moved on it own up the slight hill over the tracks to the other side. Second time we used the powder but had sceptics with us saything those are popably prints that were already on the car. So after going threw a car wash and then reapplying the powder the prints still showed up. I still go there whenever I can. If you dont beleave then you must try it for yourself, freaky at first but well worth the experience. :)

Ragon says:

January 22, 2010, 4:57 am

i have done this numerous times, it does not work, you simply roll down the “hill” there, now when you put the baby powder on the car its your finger prints that show up, not the kids. even if you wash your car before hand they still show up. also the donkey lady bridge is fake too, i went by myself on several occasions ans with others, never worked, i go to haunted places to show if they are fake or real, so far its just a bunch of fakeness. if you have anywhere actually “scary” let me know, my fireman buddies and myself are interested to see somthing worth our time, thank you =)

Salim Deramchi says:

February 12, 2010, 3:43 pm

Where about in San Antonio this happened? I have never heard about it? However, I fully agree with Tami Benslimane, he is right, how didn’t they hear the train coming? something quite not right here! can someone tell me where the track is, next time I am in San Antonio I will go investigate as I am in London right now, so sorry I can not really give my point of view. so may be in summer time.

Salim deramchi says:

February 12, 2010, 3:46 pm

Where about in San Antonio this happened? I have never heard about it? However, I fully agree with Tami Benslimane, he is right, how didn’t they hear the train coming? i can not elaborate more as I did not see the track yet. Right now I am in London, so next time I will be in San Antonio I will go to check it.

Roxanne says:

February 16, 2010, 2:54 pm

Ok I havent gone yet, but I have 4 cousins that have. They told me that they went and that they put baby powder on it and that they got kids hand prints on the truck. They also got pushed over the tracks. One of my cousins is a total science geek. They others a joks, any ways. the geek said that there are two reasons why you get hand prints on the back its because one: while your putting on the powder and putting it everywhere the oil froms your hands get on the powder and leaves a hand print. The second reason it because there is a 87% chance that you tuched the back of the truck before you put the powder on and when you do put the powder on it sticks cause of the oil on your hands that you left behind. They others believe its haunter so do I. I have heard many stories about this place that makes since that its haunted. But the reason im telling this to you all is so you can tell me who you believe and if this changed your mind.

The Expert says:

February 16, 2010, 3:08 pm

Let me just say this place is not haunted. its you mind playing tricks. Remember the human brain is not that good to begin with. I have been there 14 times. I have experence the truck moving but i notice its just the wind. Second of all the hand prints fit the size of my hands…and why you may ask. because the oils on our hands are left on the window in which it forms the hand prints. Thirdly the story makes no sence. A bus full of people get hit by a train. are you saying they had no time to get out or that no one heard the train from a distance. I live near a train tracks and everyday i have to go threw them to get to work and if there is a train coming i can hear it even when its 3 blocks away. Like i said this story doesnt fit. Oh one more thing every bus has at least 4 exits so dont give me the excuse that the door got stuck cause they had 3 more doors to get out from and you cant tell me that all the doors were stuck at the same time whats the chance in that. I rest my case

Hobo says:

February 22, 2010, 1:41 pm

I’m a hobo and i sometimes sit by that railroad track. I supply the baby powder because i want to see this happen. These guys are so stupid that they didn’t see me behind their car. I pushed it over the railroad tracks and into a ditch. When one goes to the ditch they will see wreckages of cars, people, and lots of baby powder :)

Ann X says:

February 22, 2010, 8:44 pm

I read the aurgument that the handprints are your own it’s the oil on your hands them you put on baby power then the hand prints come out even if you really clean your car…… well if that was true we would be able to see
CAT PAWS TOO!! but so far just human prints…..some of you make no sense at all.
Oh by the way the human hand print WILL TAKE OFF THE BABY POWDER!!!
THE GHOST PRINTS LOOK LIKE A MUDDY HANDPRINT IT’S CAKED ON EVEN MORE
SOMETHING A HUMAN HANDPRINT DOESN’T DO!!!

patrick says:

February 25, 2010, 4:23 pm

well i was born and raised in San Anotnio and i have been to the trackes alot. it does work everytime. but sorry yall there was not buss and train crash at that location and all the street names in the area are kids names but they are the names of the builders children. but if ur ever in san antonio u Take I 410 (SE of San Antonio) to exit 42
Turn south on Southton Road (out side the loop)
Take 2nd Right to Shane Road
Follow Shane Rd to the tracks

KK says:

March 4, 2010, 8:03 pm

Actually Lilly there was a wreck there from what A former police officer told me. The records are sealed and not accessible to the general public do the graphic nature of the accident.

omg says:

March 10, 2010, 5:20 pm

omg!! I heard about this story on tv!! Poor kids! And the powder theory was proven true.

mariah bitolas says:

March 14, 2010, 2:10 am

well i have nvr gone there be4 but i wanna go. i heard its scary.

mariah D bitolas says:

March 14, 2010, 2:11 am

well i have nvr been there be4 but i wanna go. just to see if its true or not.

Betty Estrada says:

March 14, 2010, 5:49 pm

I live in san antonio maybe 3 miles from the tracks..been there many times..That story or stories they say are not ture..there is no documentation about that story..If that would have happened it would have been documented…Its just an ole wise tale…About the names of the streets…They say the streets were named after the kids on the bus…Acuatlly Those are names of kids grandkids of a man and his wife that bought all that property…look into it you will not find anything about the tracks but you will find about the names that are actually living persons names…

Cynthia says:

March 19, 2010, 2:25 pm

So Ive been to the tracks a lot of times and i do get a little unsure about whether or not it is fake. according to me its real. I know people might think Im dumb for that but its my belief. all i know is what i saw and what i saw were tiny hand prints on the back of my car when i have no children around me ever! i have cousins that are about 2 or 3 yrs old and they don’t touch my car. anyways my car got pushed over the tracks. while i was leaving the tracks i saw a very bright light. me and my sister freaked out and saw that it was a real train coming by. so we had to go back and tell the other cars that were there to get off the tracks and people started freaking out. i don’t know if the train was supposed to still go by there knowing that people go there to see if the legend is true. but that night i will never forget i have it on video too. its scary.

Olga says:

April 19, 2010, 10:33 pm

I tried this with my friends, and it did work. The story is that they push your out of danger so that the same thing doesn’t happen to you. I felt kind of guilty having them do it.

MB says:

April 21, 2010, 2:10 pm

Sorry, not true. A study was done there sometime ago. 1st, The up hill is an optical illusion. Surveyers have determained that this road is actually slightly down hill. 2nd, the baby powder, its your and your families own hand prints. The baby powder is absorbed by the natural oils in your skin, which takes a little while to show up. Cool trick to play on your kids though!!

Priss says:

April 22, 2010, 9:53 pm

Well I Really Have Been There My Self; And The Experience i Had There, Well Um It Was Very Scaryy. We Stoped The Car,And We Put Powder On The Back Of The Car. Well after Like Less Then A Min. The Car Started Slowly Movinq Towards The Tracks And Over. I And My Friends And Family Were Freaked Out. We Couldnt Believe It. But Yeah The Names Of The Streets Are Named After The Kids That Died on The School Bus. But It Was A Weird Experience For Me.

jennifer21whoop says:

April 26, 2010, 12:19 pm

no! it happened in the 1930’s to 1940’s there were no teachers just the students and bus driver the bus staled on the tracks and before anyone knew it the train hit them head on there were no surviers and the streets around the tracks are named after the children. but there are no records of this crash ever happening, which is pretty wierd if you ask me!>!>!><<…

jennifer21whoop:) says:

April 26, 2010, 12:26 pm

no, the crash happened around the 1930’s to 1940’s. there were no teachers just students and the bus driver some say there was a sum of 24 others say 12 no one knows for sure, but they do know the bus staled on the tracks and the kids started making noise and the bus driver tryed to get the bus started again but before anyone knew it the train had hit them head on and everyone died. the streets around the tracks are named after the kids,but the weird thing is there is no record of this horrific crash happening. also it is true if you completly turn your car off it will get pushed over the tracks and the handprints will be on your car. ive done it many timesd to mess with my little brothers and cousins

ann elizaga says:

May 14, 2010, 9:50 pm

hi, i went august 08′. it didnt happen to me, but to the car in front of us. we even took a picture and u could see a little face on the window….scarey,unbelievable, but sooooooooooooo true…

Steph says:

May 20, 2010, 3:43 pm

My father was a EMT during the supposed crash and he worked that area of tow and there was never any bus crash. Also it has been scientifically proven that even though the road seems to be going up hill it is actually no and it does have a slight downhill slope to it. The baby powder on the car actually pulls out the finger prints that are on the car from others that have been in the car. Even if you wash the car you will still have fingerprints because the grease does not come off easily with water. I know that it is fun but honetly it is completely fake!

Teresa says:

July 11, 2010, 2:40 pm

My husband and I and a friend wen their Friday at 2:00 am in the morning on July 9. It is unexplained but it does happe you do gett pushed over!! Also a man poured water on the area to see if the water would go down towards the tracks to see if it was a slope but the water went the the other direction so don’t know if it was a slope the water would have gone towards the tracks but it didn’t !! We turned the car off and put it nutrual and it rolled across the tracks and we were about thirty yards away from the tracks!

mina says:

July 19, 2010, 10:16 am

i think it’s true bcz my mom and my bro told me that when bus drivers stop there bus on the track and open the doors . they can see the children who died infront of the bus.
i think it’s true bcz it’s all over the place that this event had happened and i feel really sad for the children who died

mina says:

July 19, 2010, 10:18 am

i think it’s true because my mom told me that bus drievers can see the children who died on that accident when they stop on the tracks and open the doors.
it’s true beleve it.i feel sad for the children who died

Elizabeth G. says:

July 21, 2010, 9:17 pm

I dont know if this is true or not because I’ve never been there befroe but if anyone can answer my question and that has gone there and experienced something let me know thanks!
~Liza~

Tamika says:

August 14, 2010, 2:51 pm

I don’t believe it. When i was in the children shelter we did it and nothing happen: we put the baby powered and went to look for the kids name. I think the scray part of this was looking for all the kids names that was the sad part. Now that i’m older i think that we should leave the poo kids alone. And if it is real “to so degree” What if something really do happen, would the kids help them out, or would they end up getting tired of people just coming out there to see i it is true. I think that is why people have bad thing ( like ghost) in there house because they go and look for them.

Ari says:

August 19, 2010, 2:57 pm

Honestly its not haunted at all i live in san antonio and its just because the level you are on which is why it moves and come on your car is in neutral lol, as for the fingerprints when you put baby powder on the only reason you will see handprints is because of the oil from whoever touched it before not a ghost of any kind but your own hands Sorry to dissapoint

Rafaela says:

September 12, 2010, 12:49 pm

I live here in San Antonio and it is true your car moves when you put it in neutral over the tracks. I’m not 100% sure if its the spirits of the kids but it gives me the creeps also the street names in that are are of people I heard it is the names of all the little kids that were on that bus. However, I heard they were hit by the train while still in the bus.

stephany says:

September 14, 2010, 6:51 pm

that was debunked on TV. it turned out to be an optical illusion. It appears to be going up hill over the tracks but actually it’s a slight downward slope. The site should take it down as an obvious fake.

ann says:

September 21, 2010, 8:03 pm

i went myself…and it does go uphill.and we do move by ourselves…

stephany says:

September 22, 2010, 5:18 pm

They actually measured the slope and it does go down. It only appears to be going uphill. How have you not seen the show? There was never even a crash there. Not everything is how it appears. Any how you can’t argue when some actually measures it. It’s a slight downhill slop. they even talked on the show about how amazing it is that it appears to go uphill.

Rusty says:

September 22, 2010, 10:46 pm

I wanna find this place anyone able to give directions

JB says:

September 27, 2010, 1:30 pm

The railroad tracks have been investigated, it has been discovered that the bus accident did not even occur here in San Antonio, but in another location entirely, but was covered so much by the local news that people began to think it happened here. Also a geological survey was done of the area, and although it appears to be an uphill slope, it is actually an anomally caused by the surrounding horizon. The side most people approach is actually a downhill slope. The fingerprints that show up with powder are the oils from hands that have touched the car previously, and they appear just like when a police officer test for fingerprints at a crime scene. It is an interesting local legend, but it is just a legend.

merissa says:

October 3, 2010, 6:45 pm

yall guys are dumb to beleve that it is real it happend somewhere else and the powder is fake its your own finger prints if you want to test it wash your car before you do it and the reson that it feels like somone is pushing you its because inertia you go over a hill before the tracks im tiered of people saying its true so i needed to tell yall

celli says:

October 7, 2010, 5:31 pm

not true! just recently myth busters busted the myth. that never happened in san antonio and actually the appearance of the slope is an optical illusion and the slope is actually going down. making whatever can roll, roll down the slope.

brennelson says:

October 16, 2010, 9:38 pm

This was an actual event but they did prove that the road is an optical illusion and it actually rolls down hill.Sci-fi Fact or Fiction not mythbusters.

Norma Gilliam says:

October 25, 2010, 2:16 pm

I know for a fact that this story is true. I experienced it…I took my nieces and stoped at the Shamrock Station, put baby powder on the trunk and back window before going to the tracks..put the car on nutural waited a few seconds and them the car started moving up and over the tracks…then my nieces started yelling OMG!!! look look, as I turned I saw small hand prints all over the window, then we drove back to the Shamrock Station and we got off and OMG…there were lots and lots of small hand prints…This is true…I have never been back…It scared me.

ling says:

October 25, 2010, 11:42 pm

cough cough this is all FAKE a bus did get hit by a train back in 1920’s and the kids did die but the whole car thing over the tracks fake and the finger print stuff fake they say if u put baby powder on the trunk of ur car u can see finger prints well jus like the police do the dusting and finger printing its all the same its ur own finger print kids

Shelly says:

October 27, 2010, 4:57 pm

Losers! Ha ha – J/K
For real though, i have researched the ‘history’ of this story which by the way never happened, went to the tracks and yes it does APPEAR that the car rolls up hill but if you bring a level and lay it across the tracked area you will see that it is actually a decline, not an incline. So yes the car rolls slightly. And duh! People do use powder for prints… You can see them on your car in your own driveway when applied. I do believe in ghosts and hauntings and have traveled far to see many but this one truly isnt anything more than fun for those who WANT to believe and have very vivid imaginations. :) Sorry to disappoint.

jesus says:

October 29, 2010, 11:11 am

this is very fake watch faked or faked paranormal facts on discovery its mother fake

ruben t says:

October 31, 2010, 6:50 pm

this is not true never happened here in texas the railroad accident happen in a differenet state

mandi says:

November 2, 2010, 11:38 am

it didnt happen there it happened somwere else the san antonio news paper just reported, when the car is moving its cuz theres a hill and when theres hands prints its acually your hand prints.

DAVID HIGGINS says:

November 4, 2010, 2:06 pm

It is true that your car will rollover the tracks, but surveyers have proved time and time again that it is really going downhill, it is an optical illusion the road is on a 17 degree downhill slope, the powder you put on your car shows your own prints from your body oils, wash it first then try the powder there will be no prints, the tracks have been on many fact or fiction shows about haunted places and they all say the same thing just not true in fact there has never been a train accident at that spot involving a school bus full of kids ever save your tourist dollars and go to six flags or sea world sorry for the news sincerely Nick Groff

MB Walmsley says:

November 8, 2010, 4:19 am

In 1997 I accompanied an experienced nurse (I was in training)who did home health in this area. She took me to the sight and put her vehicle in neutral – and we coasted over the tracks. She also put powder on the trunk of her car prior to our coasting…and we saw numerous…small handprints. I am still at a loss for words about this experience.

Rene Garza says:

November 8, 2010, 10:37 am

This has been debunked and proven to be an optical illusion.It looks as if you are going up hill but you are actually going down hill which caused the care to roll over the tracks. People who put baby powder on the car and see hand prints are actually their own because they failed to wipe down the car before hand. Also the bus of school children accident never even occurred here it was actually in another state.

David says:

December 5, 2010, 12:53 pm

I saw this debunked on television. They did a survey of the road and you are not going uphill. You are actually going DOWNHILL. It’s an optical illusion. The babypowder only shows your own prints and there has NEVER been a reported accident at that location involving a bus full of kids.

Draconys says:

December 16, 2010, 1:29 am

I had heard about this place when living in San Antonio. Never tried it but had been to the site. Confirmed this when a fact or fake show episode was done on this “myth”…worked for them…..just no handprints. Not a believer in such things…but was proven and filmed.

Tahmid says:

February 1, 2011, 3:03 am

I did hear the story before, but I don’t think this is true. My aunt visited there. She did feel some supernatural presence over those tracks, but the baby powder thing is just rubbish.

Mel says:

February 23, 2011, 11:13 pm

Sorry guys, but there is a magnet that pulls your car/truck towards the tracks and the prings are your own. The powder brings up all the old fingers from you or whoever touched your car. I used to believe this story too.

ashley says:

February 24, 2011, 1:35 pm

i lived in San Antonio, Texas for a long time and never heard about this so i don’t know what to think because my whole family was born here and never heard of thiss

Xenia says:

March 2, 2011, 2:19 pm

It didnt happen in San Antonio, it happend somwhere like Dallas or fort worth. I saw it on a show once, they have the news paper clippings people thought it happend here because the San antonio news paper wrote about the accident but they wrote about it happening somewhere else like Dallas or something. Everyone thought it happened here cause of that, and the finger prints come frome ur own hands, when u touch something ur oils stay there for about a year or so. And the reason the car moves is because the road is slanted or something so tha car moves.

Olivia says:

March 31, 2011, 3:08 am

I’ve heard the story and i’ve been to that site, but it’s just the weird phyisics of the way that street lays that makes a car roll over it. Try it in the daytime, when it’s less scary it wont seem as magical. Besides this story is an urban legend. No bus ever got hit by a train there. There was a bus that got hit on a train track in Utah in the 1930s and aparantly there was a lot of news coverage, so i guess other places sort of adopted the scary story. as for the fingerprints. I seriously doubt the people that said they were there, but also keep in mind that dusting for prints, the baby powder is going to stick to where anyone has previously touched it, so all the fingerprints that are ALREADy on it are going to show up. and besides why would ghosts have oils in their hands and therefore fingerprints?

samantha says:

April 6, 2011, 8:49 pm

ive been to the tacks sooo many times if u see a small light white car DO NOT STARE AT IT FOR TO LONG i went the other time and then i tought “ohhh its just another person going to the tracks’ then the back lights turned off “ohhh okay maybe it just turned…right?” we keep going theres nothing but fence and on the other side is the tracks, one road, and only one turn farr ahead and (we were bumber to bumber no joke) at first i thought that was only one time the next time i went it happend again if u see it GET THE PLATE NUMBER!!!

Aeriel says:

April 7, 2011, 7:43 pm

“I have been there, did the baby powder thing and all that jazz” is not grammatically correct.

Sara says:

April 22, 2011, 6:36 pm

Okay. My sister and I tried it, and it happened. What force could possibly be creating this to happen. It freaked us out. I’ve never experienced anything like that. Whatever the story is or is not, that force does exist. If anyone is interested in researching this phenomenon….post it.

brendan says:

April 24, 2011, 4:05 am

no matter what you think this story is not true that never happened and its not haunted. the area where your car “gets pushed by kids” is actually on a downhill grade even though it looks like you are going uphill, its an illusion from the surounding landscape. dont believe everything you hear people need to question and learn things on their own a not believe everything they hear but question experiment and find things on your own. And by the way what I have said about that area has been proven.

science says:

April 30, 2011, 9:17 pm

This was scientifically and historically proven to be a fraud. The geographical area is on a down-hill gradiant yet because of the tree lines and road appears to be going up hill. The cars naturally move via gravity not ghosts and the bus wreck that killed the children actually took place in Utah in the 1930’s but was well written in the papers in the San Antonio area. Check out Fact or Faked, they did a special on it in 2010.

leigh salinas says:

June 28, 2011, 5:07 pm

i do believe it is real. i just went last night and in the morning we cleaned the truck before we went and you were able to see the hand prints of some children i also took some pics and some faces well what looks to be faces came out. it did pick up to about 6-8mph while on neutral and the engine off.

Dee says:

July 14, 2011, 12:31 am

My family has lived in San Antonio TX for 3 generations. I have been to the tracks many times through out my life and I can assure you it’s just a story. Yes your car does roll over the tracks but the road in at a 2 degree decline although it appears to be going up hill. The hand prints come from the oils on your hands. Even if you wash your car, there are still oil residues left behind. If you really want to see if “ghost children ” push you off the tracks park your car facing the opposite way, torwards the neighborhood. If there really is something pushing you off the tracks, it should push your car off no matter what way you’re parked. All on all its a fun thing to do on a Friday night can be scary for those who let themselves believe. But the legend it self isn’t true.

gen says:

September 11, 2011, 3:06 pm

I live really close to the railroad tracks and tried it before.didnt work There is no record of that ever happening but I did watch this show along time ago where these paranormal invetigators did research at that site, they took measurement and reached to the conclusion that it the road goes downhill but doesn’t appear that way to us,so your car isnt really being pushed by little angels,but the handprints people claim to see are unexplainable…Im pretty sure there are some souls walking around since its really close to a graveyard and the missions.Definitely something you should check out and experience …oh and there are cops that go by trying to clear out the place specially during the halloween season:)

Michael says:

September 19, 2011, 7:22 pm

Was Watching A TV Program Called Fact Or Fake, They Said You Are Going Down A Hill And The Bus Accident Was In Colorado.

Zach says:

September 21, 2011, 3:05 pm

I went one time and i saw bloody kids pushing my car! :0

btw im single, hmu 😉

Genesis says:

September 26, 2011, 12:23 pm

Well i belive this story is true, I am 15 years old and my teacher in 4th grade told me that story i belive he is from san antonio. he also told me that some reporters had went their to investigate. I cant remember exactly what he said because he told me about 5 years agoo. Pretty long time ago. He also said something about the childrens hands would come up in the rail road tracks. Well thats all I can remember, i know people that stay in San antonio I will be asking them if they have heard something, so expect another comment after this one 😀 peace and love

Betsey says:

September 30, 2011, 11:35 pm

This is not true it was proven by myth busters. There was never a crash like that here in San Antonio. Also the way the hills are it makes you think the land is straight but it actually goes downhill then up. I personally have gone and put baby powder and it doesn’t show fingerprints. The car does roll but no fingerprints

destine says:

October 1, 2011, 3:00 pm

honestly i was thier not to long ago bout like a month ago nd it didnt work n of course the car is going to move its a little hill nd its on nuetural come on its going to move and the baby powder doesnt work etheir its fake me n one of my friends nd sister nd mom nd dad went nd its fake

Breeanna says:

October 26, 2011, 11:50 am

Go to snopes.com and search for this story. (Snopes is like a mythbusters for the internet) This actually happened in a northern city, not San Antonio.

Vivian says:

November 15, 2011, 12:18 am

I have visited this site, and like many others who have, experienced the car moving over the tracks while in neutral.
There has to be another explanation for it. I’m all for the paranormal and am not particularly skeptic, but just the other night I saw a movie with the same storyline. The same ghost story has been in other locations across the U.S probably. So the fact that there is no record of the incident on file anywhere within San Antonio tells you something, since the story itself is generic.
Story aside…the experience is fun nonetheless. Makes you wonder what really happened.

Shayla says:

January 23, 2012, 4:15 am

We went out there tonight, also there were some other younger people there doing the same thing. I think all the comment’s about actually seeing a trian and all that is bull. Also the other younger people that were out there put baby powder on their back window, and there was NOTHING. so this “HAUNTING” is BULL!

Lettie Fisher says:

February 10, 2012, 1:32 pm

San Antonio texas is my home town and I have been there with my mom and lived by those tracks that is actually true

Marianne says:

April 24, 2012, 12:46 pm

Mythbusters did a story on this and the reason that cars “go uphill” is that it is an optical illusion – they are actually going downhill.

Luis martinez says:

August 6, 2012, 7:19 pm

I seen a report investigation on the news about this and there is a video that this case is 100 % true..google it

Dave says:

October 10, 2012, 5:54 pm

I find all the “I swear this is true” claims highly amusing. The majority of people already have their minds made up regarding urban myths before they even decide to test them.

It was not Mythbusters, but a show called Fact or Faked that showed why cars left in neutral seem to be pushed across the tacks. It is because, as others have posted, the road is actually at a slight decline even though surrounding terrain makes you think you’re going uphill. It is nothing more than an optical illusion.

As far as “kids hand prints,” it never happens, and anyone who claims it has is either lying or misinformed.

I live in San Antonio, fairly near the tracks, and have been there several times, mainly to mess with my friends from out of state. Once I explain to them what’s really happened, they usually feel a little embarrassed because they were certain they were experiencing something paranormal. That same kind of reaction is what compels people to post comments claiming they “know” the real story and that the experience at the tracks is “100% paranormal.” It’s bogus, just a trick of your mind. There are some truly paranormal events in San Antonio, but these train tracks are not among them.

D.J. says:

October 21, 2012, 10:40 pm

I just tried looking up the physical location of the railroad crossing on Mission Road and was unable to find it, could someone tell me the nearest Intersection to it….
I’m going to take a laser level and see if it’s uphill or downhill when I go to visit the site…
Thanks in advance..

Joy says:

October 28, 2012, 3:31 am

I was there tonight (10/28/12) at about 12:20am. Put baby powder on the car & I did not pot my hands on the baby powder at all. Put the car in neutral; the car did go over the tracks, but no finger or hand prints on the car.

norma says:

January 11, 2013, 7:28 pm

I believe it’s true we went there and has our children and our son said he could hear children talking and laughin. I asked him if he was scared and he said “no mom cause they r laughin with us.” And my mom told me tat kids can hear the children so I believe it. And our son didn’t know nothin bout wat had happened there until I told him why he heard children.

patrick says:

February 24, 2013, 12:47 pm

I have grown up here all my life and gone to the tracks many times. I was heart broken when my passion for the place led me to find that it was actually an accident in Salt Lake City, Utah from the 30’s. It was just so unheard of for it’s time and highly publicized on or local news reports that it became a legend connected with our awesome town. Even though the mystery behind it has been debunked, still a great place to take a younger sibling and not share the truth with them. Keep going and keep enjoying San Antonio. I just won’t share why things there are possible. Some things should not be allowed to spoil the fun.

Morgan says:

November 2, 2014, 8:11 pm

Hi my name is Morgan and I lived in a literal haunted house!! I was kicked in the stomach, hand placed on my shoulder, black shadows ( no f***ing lie ), and so many things went on by themselves. Lol. I was 😮

kristina says:

April 15, 2015, 10:16 pm

Well all i hve to say is that i lived in this area for years already n i hve to say me being transgenderd living in this area was gonna be alright but kno the exact opposite im so scared to sleep at night cause i hear moans n cries coming from the ghost tracks alot of bad things hve happend out in this part of san Antonio the crime here is bad about almost 6 years ago a 15 year old innocent girl was abducted raped by two hispanic men n killed her n left her body in a trash Bag n left her off shane and villamain rd it was a gruesome discovery police and helicopters search the area but were unseccesful locating the men it is a dark wooded area my adcice be cautious n wise this area is very dangerous

bh says:

June 13, 2015, 5:44 pm

Unfortunately, there never was a bus accident involving children of such magnitude in San Antonio. The story is historically inaccurate and the tracks are located on a road with a geographical optical illusion which gives the impression that a vehicle is being pushed up hill and it may appear so, but it is actually the result of gravity doing its job. This is not my personal opinion rather the place has been scientifically investigated and those were the findings.

Harmony says:

June 14, 2015, 6:01 pm

The story has been debunked. the angle of the road and the side of the road plays a trick of the minds eye. making you think that you are rolling up and over the tracks when in reality you are rooling down hill over tracks!!! get your facts straight before you publish ****!!!

David says:

March 23, 2016, 12:24 pm

I went over there (ask the locals,they will tell you where the spot is)and tried pushing my truck over the tracks,it rolled over by itself.As I was pushing it, a woman appeared (perhaps it was the teacher,who knows) and started to help me push it. Long story short, we made love in the back of the truck and then she disappeared.Isn’t that scary?

Alex says:

March 31, 2016, 11:54 am

Wow, that happened to me too. I took my SUV over there, I parked and put it on neutral.The SUV started to roll by itself,I walked to the back of the SUV and saw this beautiful woman pushing it. I asked her what she was doing and she told me to help her,so I did. Once it went over the tracks, she then walked up to me and started kissing and tonguing me. I then bent her over and drilled her hard. She screamed and yelled and when I was done, I made her lick off the mess she made. She then thanked me and disappeared into the woods. It is said, that if you are quiet,you can her hear her moaning and screaming. Wow, it was fun,but scary! More fun though..lol!

Zeddemore says:

June 29, 2016, 4:06 pm

Zumi died near the train tracks. Is it possible that he is haunting sites in Texas as well as in VA. Can they travel that far?

Lakeisha says:

July 29, 2016, 8:43 am

I don’t know if the actual story is true. I haven’t found anything on the story. But I was born and raised in San Antonio and actually experienced the tracks. You think Gravity is the cause of your car rolling in neutral on a flat surface, but up a hill? I don’t think so! Something is happening there and was really pissed that my friend brought me there. I didn’t know we were even going there until we were there and starting crying immediately. I believe in letting spirits rest and not disturbing them. I don’t know the true events that happened there but I wouldn’t go again.

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